From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 35507@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35507: Gnus mojibakifies UTF-8 text/x-patch attachments from Thunderbird
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 22:05:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v9yuouzs.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8615fd4-452e-56da-fd63-1720c64fda2d@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Wed, 1 May 2019 11:26:35 -0700)
> Cc: 35507@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 11:26:35 -0700
>
> > I don't see why we should
> > change Gnus in this regard, certainly not unconditionally assuming
> > UTF-8.
> Gnus is mishandling emails sent from Thunderbird right now, so it would
> be a practical benefit for Gnus users if it did a better job of decoding
> these admittedly-iffy messages.
>
> These days, UTF-8 is by far the most common encoding specified for
> non-ASCII text in email and its popularity is growing, so it's the best
> choice for a default if Gnus will have one - certainly better than the
> confusing behavior that Robert Pluim observed in his Gnus session.
> Gnus's current behavior may have been a good idea in 1996 when RFC 2046
> said US-ASCII was the default, but it stopped being a good idea in 2012
> when RFC 6657 came out and said that UTF-8 should be the default if
> there is a default.
>
> Another possibility is that Gnus could ask the user which encoding to
> use when the email headers don't specify one and when the text is not
> ASCII; even that would be better than Gnus's current behavior of forcing
> US-ASCII and displaying something like "\xe2\x80\x99" when it encounters
> a non-ASCII character.
I'm okay with having a default that's customizable. I also think Gnus
should have a feature that allows the user to request "re-decoding" of
a message part, because no matter how smart are we and our defaults,
they will sometimes fail.
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-30 19:20 bug#35507: Gnus mojibakifies UTF-8 text/x-patch attachments from Thunderbird Paul Eggert
2019-05-01 0:35 ` Andy Moreton
2019-05-01 15:22 ` Robert Pluim
2019-05-01 15:45 ` Andy Moreton
2019-05-01 16:42 ` Andy Moreton
2019-05-01 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-01 23:54 ` Andy Moreton
2019-05-02 3:07 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-02 7:17 ` Andy Moreton
2019-05-02 11:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 15:43 ` Andy Moreton
2019-05-02 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 16:08 ` Andy Moreton
2019-05-02 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 17:13 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-05-02 17:45 ` Andy Moreton
2019-05-02 16:10 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-02 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 13:55 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-02 16:29 ` Robert Pluim
2019-05-02 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 12:01 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-02 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 14:02 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-03 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 15:20 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-05-01 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 6:35 ` Robert Pluim
2019-05-01 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-01 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-01 18:26 ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-01 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-05-01 19:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-05-01 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-02 23:24 ` Paul Eggert
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