bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Takesi Ayanokoji]

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Hi.

In Elisp manual -> Debugging -> Edebug -> Printing in Edebug, the manual
says

Other programs can also use custom printing; see cust-print.el fo rdetails.

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/doc/lispref/edebug.texi#n875

, but cust-print.el is obsolete since emacs-24.3.

Thanks.

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bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Stefan Kangas]

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Takesi Ayanokoji <ayanokoji.takesi@gmail.com> writes:

> In Elisp manual -> Debugging -> Edebug -> Printing in Edebug, the manual says
>
> Other programs can also use custom printing; see cust-print.el fo rdetails.
>
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/doc/lispref/edebug.texi#n875
>
> , but cust-print.el is obsolete since emacs-24.3.

Thanks for the report.

Perhaps we could simply to remove it like in the attached patch?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

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From 920b99d3b4e8c39c3f7ab1592182dbe3cba0171a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:45:00 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Remove reference to obsolete library cust-print.el

* doc/lispref/edebug.texi (Printing in Edebug): Remove reference to
obsolete library cust-print.el.  (Bug#37956)
---
 doc/lispref/edebug.texi | 3 ---
 1 file changed, 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/lispref/edebug.texi b/doc/lispref/edebug.texi
index e1147df8af..c9de448469 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/edebug.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/edebug.texi
@@ -872,9 +872,6 @@ Printing in Edebug
 printing results.  The default value is @code{t}.
 @end defopt
 
-  Other programs can also use custom printing; see @file{cust-print.el}
-for details.
-
 @node Trace Buffer
 @subsection Trace Buffer
 @cindex trace buffer
-- 
2.23.0

bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:

> Perhaps we could simply to remove it like in the attached patch?

I think so -- it makes no sense to have the manual refer to obsolete
libraries.

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bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:47:05 +0100
> Cc: 37956@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > In Elisp manual -> Debugging -> Edebug -> Printing in Edebug, the manual says
> >
> > Other programs can also use custom printing; see cust-print.el fo rdetails.
> >
> > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/doc/lispref/edebug.texi#n875
> >
> > , but cust-print.el is obsolete since emacs-24.3.
> 
> Thanks for the report.
> 
> Perhaps we could simply to remove it like in the attached patch?

We moved cuts-print.el to obsolete/ because its features are supported
by the Lisp printer.  So I'd prefer to modify that sentence to mention
the latter, rather than just remove it.

Btw, this sentence and one earlier mentions "custom printing" without
explaining what that means, AFAICT.  It would be good to fix this
while at that.

Thanks.

bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Takesi Ayanokoji]

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Hi.

In files.texi also referes obsolete Fast Lock mode.

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/doc/lispref/files.texi#n490

Thanks.

2019年10月29日(火) 2:43 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:

> > From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:47:05 +0100
> > Cc: 37956@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > > In Elisp manual -> Debugging -> Edebug -> Printing in Edebug, the
> manual says
> > >
> > > Other programs can also use custom printing; see cust-print.el fo
> rdetails.
> > >
> > >
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/doc/lispref/edebug.texi#n875
> > >
> > > , but cust-print.el is obsolete since emacs-24.3.
> >
> > Thanks for the report.
> >
> > Perhaps we could simply to remove it like in the attached patch?
>
> We moved cuts-print.el to obsolete/ because its features are supported
> by the Lisp printer.  So I'd prefer to modify that sentence to mention
> the latter, rather than just remove it.
>
> Btw, this sentence and one earlier mentions "custom printing" without
> explaining what that means, AFAICT.  It would be good to fix this
> while at that.
>
> Thanks.
>

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bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Takesi Ayanokoji <ayanokoji.takesi@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 01:16:27 +0900
> Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>, 37956@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> In files.texi also referes obsolete Fast Lock mode.

Thanks, I removed that reference.

bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Stefan Kangas]

tags 37956 + confirmed
thanks

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
>> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:47:05 +0100
>> Cc: 37956@debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> > In Elisp manual -> Debugging -> Edebug -> Printing in Edebug, the manual says
>> >
>> > Other programs can also use custom printing; see cust-print.el fo rdetails.
>> >
>> > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/doc/lispref/edebug.texi#n875
>> >
>> > , but cust-print.el is obsolete since emacs-24.3.
>>
>> Thanks for the report.
>>
>> Perhaps we could simply to remove it like in the attached patch?
>
> We moved cuts-print.el to obsolete/ because its features are supported
> by the Lisp printer.  So I'd prefer to modify that sentence to mention
> the latter, rather than just remove it.
>
> Btw, this sentence and one earlier mentions "custom printing" without
> explaining what that means, AFAICT.  It would be good to fix this
> while at that.

(That was 10 months ago, but I never replied back at the time.)

I don't know what the "Lisp printer" is, nor do I know what "custom
printing" is, so I unfortunately can't help with the above.

Help welcome by someone who knows enough about this to make the proposed
additions.

bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 00:40:50 +0000
> Cc: 37956@debbugs.gnu.org, ayanokoji.takesi@gmail.com
> 
> > We moved cuts-print.el to obsolete/ because its features are supported
> > by the Lisp printer.  So I'd prefer to modify that sentence to mention
> > the latter, rather than just remove it.
> >
> > Btw, this sentence and one earlier mentions "custom printing" without
> > explaining what that means, AFAICT.  It would be good to fix this
> > while at that.
> 
> (That was 10 months ago, but I never replied back at the time.)
> 
> I don't know what the "Lisp printer" is

In the ELisp manual, type "i Lisp printer RET" and read there.

> nor do I know what "custom printing" is

That's cust-print.el, I think.

bug#37956: Elisp manual referes obsolete lisp file.

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> (That was 10 months ago, but I never replied back at the time.)
>> 
>> I don't know what the "Lisp printer" is
>
> In the ELisp manual, type "i Lisp printer RET" and read there.
>
>> nor do I know what "custom printing" is
>
> That's cust-print.el, I think.

I've now updated the manual here.

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