From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40773: newsticker documentation Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:34:25 +0300 Message-ID: <83v9lizlcu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20200422155528.ccsjljhamqeaocsd@E15-2016.optimum.net> <87h7x33ggs.fsf@panama> <20200429041745.srdhgypy5v27e3mv@E15-2016.optimum.net> <838sie205k.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429091213.rtyoo537qgccbccz@E15-2016.optimum.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="129746"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 40773@debbugs.gnu.org To: Boruch Baum Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 29 11:39:02 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjBG-000Xc6-1E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:39:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34608 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjBF-0004V4-31 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34468) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTjAr-0004D8-EQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:38:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTj7O-0003QQ-69 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTj7N-0003QJ-Q3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:35:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jTj7N-0006N0-NJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:35:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40773 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 40773-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40773.158815289224465 (code B ref 40773); Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40773) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2020 09:34:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42444 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jTj7D-0006MX-PL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:34:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jTj7B-0006MK-K3 for 40773@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:34:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51311) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTj76-0002p0-3X; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:34:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1160 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jTj75-0000xY-Dp; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:34:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200429091213.rtyoo537qgccbccz@E15-2016.optimum.net> (message from Boruch Baum on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:12:13 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179295 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:12:13 -0400 > From: Boruch Baum > Cc: ulf.jasper@web.de, 40773@debbugs.gnu.org > > > We mention the most important of them in the Emacs manual, but we > > cannot possible mention all of them. > > Why not? It's --only-- 58. They likely don't change very often. After > the initial work, which I'm guessing will amount 58 text lines in a > single .texi file (is that how it works?), how often will it need to be > changed? I don't think a single line for a package will do. Compare with the descriptions we do have for the manuals we do mention in the Emacs manual. > > > Further, as a corollary, I suggest that packages bundled in the default > > > emacs distribution should NOT have info nodes in the emacs section of > > > the root info index, ie. no duplication. Either the emacs section of the > > > root info index should be restricted to non-default emacs packages, or > > > there shouldn't exist such a section at all, and the emacs manual should > > > have a section for external packages. > > > > I don't think I understand what you propose here. What is "the root > > info index"? is that the Emacs menu in the DIR file > > That sounds right. I meant what I see when I type `C-h i'. Then I don't understand the rationale for removing the entries from there. What useful purpose would that serve?