From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: henri-biard@francemel.fr
Cc: 49039@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#49039: Aspell in Emacs
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:12:22 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v96f2e0p.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea-mime-60c8eb89-4c51-100bbb82@www-7.mailo.com> (henri-biard@francemel.fr)
> From: henri-biard@francemel.fr
> Cc: 49039@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:03:53 +0200 (CEST)
>
> > > It looks to me that it is basically a hack of ispell, likely the result that it was easier
> > > and quicker for the developer to do it that way. Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> > You are wrong. Please read the code, don't just judge it by the name
> of the package (which is just a historic incident).
>
> It is valuable to go past the historic after significant time has passed as it easily leads
> to confusion or obfuscation.
>
> May I suggest that the generic framework uses a name which in different that using
> the old ispell name. And within that framowork, one could call ispell, aspell or whatever,
> so there is no longer a conflict of understanding between ispell the framework and ispell
> the program.
We are not going to change the names, sorry. Too many Emacs users are
used to these names.
> > > Had tried lookinf for the self documentation for ispell-program-name, but could not
> > > access anything.
>
> > "C-h v ispell-program-name RET" would have shown its documentation.
>
> There are no matches for ispell-program-name if you try to do C-h v ispell-program-name
There will be once you invoke the first ispell-* command.
> > In any case, since Emacs already looks for known spell-checkers, and
> > already prefers aspell, my conclusion from the fact that it didn't
> > work for you is that you have some unusual setup, which should be
> > quite rare nowadays. The defaults are set such that the user will not
> > need to know about this variable.
>
> There has been a misunderstanding that aspell was not working. It was
> working but my impression was that using ispell on emacs was using
> ispell the program.
>
> I am convinced that the user should know about the variable. It is an important
> variable and users should know what spell checker is being used.
Then I'm sorry, but we will have to agree to disagree on that.
> > IOW, spelling with aspell in Emacs should work as long as invoking
> > aspell from the shell prompt works. If it doesn't work to invoke
> > aspell from the shell prompt, then you should first correct your
> > system's configuration so that it does.
>
> Correct, but it is hard to understand what spelling program is being used.
You can always ask. Like here: you asked and got the answer.
> Gnu packages should work well together. The Gnu Aspell manual says that
> Aspell is a Free and Open Source spell checker designed to eventually replace
> Ispell.This creates confusion and emacs should stop using ispell by name,
> except when it is actually using the ispell checker.
You are again sticking to the name. The name is not important: I'm
quite sure Emacs was using aspell on your system (if it is installed),
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-15 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-15 13:41 bug#49039: Aspell in Emacs henri-biard
2021-06-15 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-15 15:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-15 15:09 ` henri-biard
2021-06-15 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-15 17:00 ` henri-biard
2021-06-15 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-15 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-15 18:09 ` henri-biard
2021-06-15 18:03 ` henri-biard
2021-06-15 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-06-15 19:20 ` henri-biard
2021-06-15 19:25 ` henri-biard
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