From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 16:22:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83v927y7kj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <834ka4k15m.fsf@gnu.org> <83y27gijmz.fsf@gnu.org> <8335pmgnjy.fsf@gnu.org> <604da2cb10ac61f2b8b89a02c89056be@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83a6jtff87.fsf@gnu.org> <5ac7a31cf2959c31c262a3377c736a5a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83ilygew7p.fsf@gnu.org> <83fstjdiwl.fsf@gnu.org> <871r534s2o.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfxgx09x.fsf@gmail.com> <83a6jkyrok.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28275"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 08 15:24:04 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mYpr2-0007Ai-HF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 15:24:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34844 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYpr1-0004Pg-Ei for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 09:24:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYpqP-0003jd-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 09:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYpqM-00074t-Kc; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 09:23:22 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3086 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYpqA-0001m0-AN; Fri, 08 Oct 2021 09:23:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 08 Oct 2021 08:58:55 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276560 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: João Távora , > psainty@orcon.net.nz, acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 08:58:55 -0400 > > >> An implementation of this idea is awaiting comments over at bug#50959. > > I think you should install that. > > I'm not sure if he may be referring to another patch (I haven't checked > the whole thread), but the patch I saw in there implements it with an > ad-hoc `completion-style`. > > I consider this as an abuse of the notion of completion style (which > are supposed to be orthogonal to the actual completion data), so I'd > strongly recommend not to use this patch. You'd have to convince me why it's abuse, because I'm not convinced yet.