From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "The starting list count" ????? Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 21:36:02 +0200 Message-ID: <83v8z0boil.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4b0fc44c-8ef2-e6c8-0146-1497fe43acf7@dasyatidae.com> <874k6k1xfz.fsf@igel.home> <6efd3286-257e-e086-ae57-c726657b5d06@dasyatidae.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16855"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, schwab@linux-m68k.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robin Tarsiger Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 20:37:35 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4T9D-00047l-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 20:37:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47726 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4T9A-0002rH-Ri for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 14:37:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50976) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4T7g-00022w-DQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 14:36:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=58498 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4T7e-0006Mn-Rz; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 14:35:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ITaf3Z14dhFDXboI/VYK1FkOR42NhAOwF2Dpp1V96lU=; b=DgF2dVH8URWi OYc+qOB54MiF9Af3zXIdv+eodQZitzb6vLQ5kLBssZ2suTiuPUW4eG+TdyJ8mCPvIyTfRgmVIyTYf XAgHkfpOAv2zmaTKqYRgsX8IqBFumz+BnA8tsyh23y9a6cjuPjlJjzNBoLuAnb4mVc8s3CbpozafA AX0+vXBHbb51VKQ/HT02rrPx9c93EMZVJodaiyN3RQmEIRhSrrgzQYQoH6AkIrCHxugj3ja2wa+4/ 7Soema5ql/KIYsMvRnEJlPNyNLy7JpcVRyqA7aggMVTOp3xpObQlp4xFMopX+4oz5wIopg0BsxUMz NKBVVVoyAYCsNY7S0au3BQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3058 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4T7e-0000mk-AH; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 14:35:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <6efd3286-257e-e086-ae57-c726657b5d06@dasyatidae.com> (message from Robin Tarsiger on Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:59:56 -0600) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284092 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:59:56 -0600 > From: Robin Tarsiger > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Alan's definitely right to imply that this needs a better definition. "Better"? it sounds like we don't have a definition at all, just examples (some of which we don't even understand).