From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55493: [PATCH] Rename Oriya to Odia Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:57:28 +0300 Message-ID: <83v8u2esuv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wnejv50z.fsf@gmail.com> <838rqzf1mo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55493@debbugs.gnu.org, visuweshm@gmail.com To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 18 17:58:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM48-000AFM-53 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 17:58:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57900 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM46-0008H5-Gf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:58:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3m-0008GQ-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39393) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3m-0001CG-53 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3m-0002ld-1C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:58:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 15:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55493 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 55493-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55493.165288946210603 (code B ref 55493); Wed, 18 May 2022 15:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2022 15:57:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3R-0002kx-Sn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:57:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3Q-0002kl-T2 for 55493@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:57:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3K-00018R-Vk; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:57:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=Vuuan4RuMasZVZOBcW1l7ck8ym+EtE3GC4kUKgNtzRY=; b=AtS8e/DaJHUseSSW1EH2 kXgU55O3xPFgQI5zP3oZ81oLza4Nvj8EStEoKJe6EPFwab4RRhsH0U7wP1XgihyqE4tpHeeDik7vX 2s5TRiYWSAFHx7O0uqELQY+5+zr0lZQzGRiLE+oHE4PVi+gGIj00NrhsoPo7GxTuf0zsib8WlkerF wEGVeARdesGIJEVA4R8X5q+nKtYpbg2LfxsCZPL9qDkwsTIqKeEf1jzu5tS3JkhlBEPaPh4wRZC1h 9w+UrDkyTIC5MexYFiruPSiq5VMiprta03trvivGVsd2wu58hHCahA+k3618Pi2VLNPVLyCgdhuuE 5prPxW76+iKtvw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3817 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrM3J-0002QM-Hz; Wed, 18 May 2022 11:57:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B0_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B8=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=B9?= Sameer Singh on Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:232589 Archived-At: > From: समीर सिंह Sameer Singh > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:08:09 +0530 > Cc: Visuwesh , 55493@debbugs.gnu.org > > The changes to HELLO do more that the above says. I don't think I > understand the reason for the change in the "South Asia" line. > > The South Asia line was correcting the Odia greeting, which I had changed previously (from "Listen" to > "Namaskaar") Please reflect that in the log message. > This is unrelated, and I see no reason to rename the variable in a > backward-incompatible way. It's just a variable, so it doesn't have > to be named rigorously correct. If we were discussing new code, the > correction would have had its place, but not now, 16 years after it > was introduced. > > This variable name is somewhat misleading. When I searched "iso 638", online to see whether the language > codes were updated or not, > it showed me results for oven boards, later when searching "iso 638 languages" I realized that the correct > standard number is 639. > There was also a FIXME above it, so I fixed that. > If there is a backward-compatible way to change it please tell me, or if you still feel the change is not > warranted, I will revert this it. A backward-compatible change would need to introduce an obsolete alias with the old name. > I don't think we should rename variables and functions. It's just a > lot of hassle for us (defalias etc.) and potentially for others, and > the gain is very small. This variable doesn't even say "oriya", just > "ori". Let's not be too radical here. > > Then I should only rename in etc/HELLO, and in (set-language-info-alist) of lisp/language/indian.el. Yes, I think so. > We cannot rename an input method we had for almost 20 years. If there > is some way of having an alias for an input method (I don't think so, > but maybe I'm missing something), let's use that; otherwise we will > have either to leave the old name alone or define a new input method > that is an exact copy of the old one, except for the name and the > mode-line indicator. > > How about I make a new Odia input system, just like the ones which I had made for the other scripts, and > leave the old ones alone? By "input system", do you mean a separate language-environment with a separate input method? That would be OK, I think. Thanks.