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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 59381@debbugs.gnu.org, ackerleytng@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#59381: Should xref--marker-ring be per-window?
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 09:59:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v8na5a5e.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ffd62411-952a-3912-c6e7-a8c3bd3669cf@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 20 Nov 2022 04:52:38 +0200)

> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 04:52:38 +0200
> Cc: ackerleytng@gmail.com, 59381@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> 
> > My guess is that the OP wanted to have control on when M-. pushes locations to
> > the last used stack or begin a new stack.  Because only the user knows when
> > M-. begins a new series of searches.  So I think it is better to offer a
> > separate command for exercising just such control.
> 
> As previously mentioned in 
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=38797#8, I personally find 
> it perfectly usable to always use window-local stacks.
> 
> But maybe it will be helpful for you to elaborate: what the workflow 
> would look like. Would it be a parallel set of commands, or simply a 
> command to... do what?

I just did that, above: add a command that starts a new "stack".  All the
rest is unchanged.

> In my workflow, a new stack is more or less created implicitly by 
> splitting a window, and discarded by deleting one.

So you always ever have a given buffer displayed in a single window?  Does
it ever happen to you that you need to work on one portion of a file while
looking at its another portion? or work on one file while look at another
file in a sibling window?  If you ever need to do these, and both windows
show files that belong to the same "editing activity", why would the stack
be local to a window?  That would effectively designate a single window as
the only one where M-. and M-, will do what you expect, no?

> The older stacks can get forgotten, but while the locations are fresh in
> mind, this behavior feels logical: it *feels* that I did that chain of
> navigations in one window, and another in the other one. And I can jump
> back and forward in each one in parallel.

But not if you switch windows?

> I suppose it doesn't work as well when commands pop new windows a lot, 
> but luckily M-. doesn't do that too often.

In your experience, maybe.  In Emacs we have macros like FOO_BAR that call
functions named foo_bar, and then M-. always pops up a new window.  Likewise
with macros or data structures that have several different definitions
depending on the window-system backend (X, w32, NS, etc.).

The use cases I described don't work well with window-local stacks.  So if
an explicit command as I envisioned is deemed an annoyance, perhaps a user
option which will allow one or the other workflow is in order?





  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-20  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-19  5:29 bug#59381: Should xref--marker-ring be per-window? Ackerley Tng
2022-11-19 18:53 ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-19 19:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 22:01     ` Ackerley Tng
2022-11-20  7:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 17:00         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20 17:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 18:11             ` Ackerley Tng
2022-11-20 18:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 23:01                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-21  7:42                   ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-24  3:16                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20  2:52     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-20  7:59       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-11-20 23:17         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-21 13:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22  2:46             ` Ackerley Tng
2022-11-24  3:28               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24 14:17                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24 23:42                   ` Ackerley Tng
2022-11-24 23:59                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-25  0:28                       ` Ackerley Tng
2022-11-25  1:02                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24  3:19             ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-24  7:30               ` Eli Zaretskii

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