why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el natively compiled on each startup?

why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el natively compiled on each startup?

[Emanuel Berg]

Why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el
natively compiled on each startup?

They change all the time?

Why?

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Re: why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el natively compiled on each startup?

[Lele Gaifax]

Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> writes:

> Why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el
> natively compiled on each startup?
>
> They change all the time?
>
> Why?

I'm experiencing the same thing, in several different "setups"
(doom-emacs and my own home-made configuration), with both GNU/Emacs 29
and master: every time I launch a new Emacs, I see the following in the
*Async-native-compile-log* buffer:

  Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...
  uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...
  uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...done
  Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-loaddefs.el.gz...
  uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...
  uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...done
  Compilation finished.
  Compilation finished.

Thanks&bye, lele.
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Re: why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el natively compiled on each startup?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it>
> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2023 18:46:37 +0100
> 
> Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> writes:
> 
> > Why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el
> > natively compiled on each startup?
> >
> > They change all the time?
> >
> > Why?
> 
> I'm experiencing the same thing, in several different "setups"
> (doom-emacs and my own home-made configuration), with both GNU/Emacs 29
> and master: every time I launch a new Emacs, I see the following in the
> *Async-native-compile-log* buffer:
> 
>   Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...
>   uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...
>   uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...done
>   Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-loaddefs.el.gz...
>   uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...
>   uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...done
>   Compilation finished.
>   Compilation finished.

They are marked with no-native-compile:t, so Emacs isn't actually
compiling them.

FWIW, I don't see those messages when I start Emacs.

Re: why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el natively compiled on each startup?

[Emanuel Berg]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> They are marked with no-native-compile:t, so Emacs isn't
> actually compiling them.
>
> FWIW, I don't see those messages when I start Emacs.

In *Async-native-compile-log*

Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...
uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...
uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...done
Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-loaddefs.el.gz...
uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...
uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...done
Compilation finished.

GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0)
of 2022-12-26 [commit 2ffe1494e16381cfc7fec95a6a0879f268df3e95]

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Re: why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el natively compiled on each startup?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2023 20:25:19 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > They are marked with no-native-compile:t, so Emacs isn't
> > actually compiling them.
> >
> > FWIW, I don't see those messages when I start Emacs.
> 
> In *Async-native-compile-log*
> 
> Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...
> uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...
> uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...done
> Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-loaddefs.el.gz...
> uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...
> uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...done
> Compilation finished.

Not sure what's that supposed to mean.