From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9571: 24.0.50; user option to turn off bidi, please Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:40:37 +0300 Message-ID: <83ty83qq3e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8362kjsjsk.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316788914 18327 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2011 14:41:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9571@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 16:41:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R76wm-0004wK-HZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:41:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46562 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R76wl-0002IJ-ST for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:41:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46899) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R76wf-0002Ct-SS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:41:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R76wb-0002R9-69 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:41:41 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R76wb-0002R5-3O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:41:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R76x1-0006oQ-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:42:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9571 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 9571-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9571.131678890126153 (code B ref 9571); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9571) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2011 14:41:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R76we-0006nk-2S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:41:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R76wX-0006nZ-V6 for 9571@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LRZ00K00CLY0O00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9571@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:40:04 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.8.215]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LRZ00HU6CQRPTX2@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:40:04 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:42:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51717 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:31:41 -0400 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: drew.adams@oracle.com, 9571@debbugs.gnu.org > > Bidi display does not change the characters on display or in the > buffer in any way. So it will neither help nor prevent you to figure > out what's in the text. > > If the reordering has confusing effects, turning off bidi display > would enable you to see clearly what the real order is in the buffer. As I said (following Stefan), find-file-literally has that effect.