From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9891: 24.0.90; Duplicated entry at the info directory Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:54:42 +0200 Message-ID: <83ty6ik731.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y5w1m1wu.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqhc1cgr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87sjm7qxu5.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83ipn3mb41.fsf@gnu.org> <87obwuvne3.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83hb2mmmuq.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1320501392 25933 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2011 13:56:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9891@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 05 14:56:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgjT-00044N-Mw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:56:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48939 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgjT-00007i-1n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:56:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48387) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgjP-00006n-LT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:56:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgjO-00036R-FL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:56:23 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50412) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgjO-00036N-CZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:56:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgly-0005zA-4Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9891 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9891-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9891.132050153923000 (code B ref 9891); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9891) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2011 13:58:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RMglu-0005yt-UL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:58:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgls-0005yl-31 for 9891@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:58:57 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LU600400X4OVN00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9891@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:55:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.70.69]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LU6004Q4XCQUZ20@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:55:39 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:59:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:53547 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: juri@jurta.org, 9891@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:52:54 -0400 > > I added that code because I bumped into different dir entries which used > slightly different header lines for fundamentally the same purpose. > E.g. my current /usr/share/info/dir contains: > > Emacs > * Ada mode: (emacs-21/ada-mode). > The GNU Emacs mode for editing Ada. > [...] > Emacs editing modes > * Ada mode: (emacs-23/ada-mode). > Emacs mode for editing and compiling Ada code. > [...] > Emacs network features > [...] > * TRAMP: (emacs-23/tramp). Transparent Remote Access, Multiple Protocol > Emacs remote file access via rsh and rcp. > [...] > GNU Emacs > * TRAMP: (emacs-22/tramp). Transparent Remote Access, Multiple Protocol > GNU Emacs remote file access via rsh and rcp. But these all are different entries, they will not (and should not) be unified into a single entry. I agree it's unfortunate that, e.g., emacs-21/ada-mode and emacs-23/ada-mode will not appear under the same heading, but it's not too bad to have them under different headings. They are there and they can be easily found. By contrast, the current code forcibly _removes_ all the headings we put on our info/dir, which is shooting ourselves in the foot: we make _our_ DIR menu worse because _someone_else_ can't get their act together in _their_ `dir' files. This sounds backwards to me: if users don't like the results, let them complain to those who are responsible for that result, rather than to us.