From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13007: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:46:43 +0200 Message-ID: <83txs8uzkc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9FE4F131C0C94FC79470495A8506A387@us.oracle.com> <83k3t7xemd.fsf@gnu.org> <50B4EF28.6040905@yandex.ru> <834nkbx7if.fsf@gnu.org> <50B5BB01.2070304@yandex.ru> <50B63309.1070404@yandex.ru> <838v9lwqvn.fsf@gnu.org> <50B6FE89.20304@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354207642 30520 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2012 16:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13007@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com To: Dmitry Antipov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 29 17:47:32 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Te7Gt-0002Fb-3L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:47:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34923 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Te7Gh-0007gH-Tm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:47:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60021) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Te7GW-0007fC-S2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:47:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Te7GP-0005t4-DA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:47:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Te7GP-0005t0-9n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:47:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Te7IL-0004LH-Ly for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:49:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13007 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13007-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13007.135420772116663 (code B ref 13007); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13007) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2012 16:48:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45407 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Te7I1-0004Ki-FM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:48:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:33011) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Te7Hz-0004KY-M7 for 13007@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:48:40 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0ME900600D6FVP00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13007@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:46:22 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0ME9006B4D9AEHB0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:46:22 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <50B6FE89.20304@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67586 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:19:53 +0400 > From: Dmitry Antipov > CC: 13007@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com > > On 11/28/2012 09:59 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Let me turn the table and ask why should we insist on this assertion? > > What do we gain by enforcing it? > > > > I know what we lose: the trunk is severely broken for 2 days, and > > counting. 3 people have independently bumped into this in 2 different > > situations. If there's no significant gain in this, I say let's > > remove the assertion and move on. > > OK for now. But I still thinks that we just ignore some unusual cases > which needs more investigations. I'm okay with investigating, as long as others don't suffer too much. For starters, can you tell what triggered the assertion violation in Juanma's case? IOW, how did we wind up in a situation where (AFAIU) the selected window displays a buffer other than the current one? And Drew, could you please try coming up with a simple recipe starting with "emacs -Q"? If you define a configuration with a minibuffer-less frame, a separate minibuffer frame, and arrange for *Completions* to pop up yet another frame, then trigger completion in some simple way, does Emacs abort like in your original report? TIA