From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:21:41 +0200 Message-ID: <83twyt7et6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d25juy8m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83iofa8lu2.fsf@gnu.org> <87twytg0m8.fsf@engster.org> <83wq3p7ki2.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbj9r66o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423596134 22166 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 19:22:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, deng@randomsample.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 20:22:06 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLGNp-0007ir-VK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:22:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41492 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLGNp-0005nP-7r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48651) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLGNm-0005mx-33 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLGNh-0004mN-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:57114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLGNc-0004cA-JE; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:21:52 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NJK00B00L9EYT00@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:13:35 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NJK002T0LEN3O90@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:13:35 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87vbj9r66o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.180 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182833 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Cc: David Engster , emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:07:43 +0100 > > I see the claim of exaggeration wielded a lot here against those > actually doing the work and/or actually shouldering the consequences of > decisions. People tend to exaggerate the difficulties they face. It's only natural, especially when the job is large and significant parts of it are unknown or uncertain. Been there, done that, have bruises to prove. I thought it might help to remind people that difficulties are not always as grave as our imagination tells us, and share my own experience in similar situations. I don't see anything wrong with that.