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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Can we make set_point_both less expensive?
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:27:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83twxkztkn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55071E92.1050700@dancol.org>

> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 11:18:58 -0700
> From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On 03/16/2015 11:05 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
> >> Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> >> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:36:40 -0400
> >>
> >>>> what users of those features normally want is to catch movement of
> >>>> the cursor
> >>> You mean, we should do this in redisplay?
> >>
> >> Probably in pre-redisplay-hook or in pre/post-command-hook, yes.
> > 
> > That contradicts the "catch movement of cursor" idea: redisplay could
> > well move point from where it is found before redisplay, as you know.
> 
> When does that matter? The intent is to get editing to behave _as if_
> invisible regions were intangible, and the existing invisible motion
> behavior seems mostly up to the task.

I wasn't talking about intangible, I was talking about the
point-entered and point-exited properties.

Stefan argues that these should actually be cursor-entered/exited,
i.e. we should run the hooks when we know that point has the value
that will be used to set the cursor there.  But doing that before
redisplay doesn't guarantee that, since redisplay sometimes moves
point to bring it into view.  So in that case, the hooks might run
when they shouldn't have, or vice versa.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-16 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-15 19:53 Can we make set_point_both less expensive? Daniel Colascione
2015-03-16  3:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-16  3:32   ` Daniel Colascione
2015-03-16 12:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-16 16:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-16 17:42         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-16 18:03         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-03-16  3:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-16 12:47     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-16 16:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-16 17:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-16 18:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-16 18:18             ` Daniel Colascione
2015-03-16 18:27               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-03-16 18:31                 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-03-16 19:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-16 20:43                     ` Daniel Colascione
2015-03-16 20:48                       ` Lennart Borgman
2015-03-16 20:53                         ` Daniel Colascione
2015-03-16 22:00                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-17  7:08                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <<5507408D.1040104@dancol.org>
     [not found]                       ` <<83h9tkyucg.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-03-17 15:11                         ` Drew Adams
2015-03-16 18:57             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-17 10:25               ` martin rudalics
2015-03-17 15:38                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-17 19:27                   ` martin rudalics
2015-03-17 21:37                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-18  7:36                       ` martin rudalics
2015-03-18 12:55                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-18 19:05                           ` martin rudalics
2015-03-18 19:24                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-19  7:51                               ` martin rudalics
2015-03-19 13:41                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-20  8:08                                   ` martin rudalics
2015-03-20 14:14                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-20 14:20                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2015-03-20 14:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-20 14:48                                       ` martin rudalics
2015-03-20 15:08                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-20 17:57                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-20 20:52                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-20 21:50                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21  7:32                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21  9:58                                                   ` martin rudalics
2015-03-21 10:43                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21 12:30                                                       ` martin rudalics
2015-03-21 12:45                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-20 19:53                                           ` martin rudalics
2015-03-20 21:19                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-20 21:53                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21  7:38                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21  9:59                                                   ` martin rudalics
2015-03-21 10:46                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21 10:56                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21 12:31                                                       ` martin rudalics
2015-03-21 14:03                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21 14:44                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21 17:28                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21 18:28                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21 22:14                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-22 14:11                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2015-03-22 22:25                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21 13:59                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21 14:35                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21 14:47                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21 17:10                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21 17:14                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21 22:12                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-22  3:34                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-22 13:58                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-22 17:41                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-22 22:23                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-23 15:31                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-23 19:27                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-23 19:28                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-23 19:39                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-23 21:37                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21 14:42                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21  9:58                                                 ` martin rudalics
2015-03-21 14:10                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-21  9:58                                               ` martin rudalics
2015-03-21 10:42                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21 12:30                                                   ` martin rudalics
2015-03-21 12:45                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-20 17:59                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-20 19:53                                           ` martin rudalics
2015-03-17 14:29       ` Richard Stallman
2015-03-17 15:15         ` Yuri Khan
2015-03-17 15:33           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-18 12:00           ` Richard Stallman

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