From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:11:05 +0300 Message-ID: <83twtxdtva.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <55826DCC.9040404@cs.ucla.edu> <55850208.3080605@cs.ucla.edu> <5585C279.3030607@cs.ucla.edu> <55871590.8010406@cs.ucla.edu> <83vbefhihy.fsf@gnu.org> <834mlyh1v4.fsf@gnu.org> <83egl1g6tm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435158707 11026 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2015 15:11:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 24 17:11:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7mKn-0002oV-7d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:11:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7mKm-0004tj-NE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:11:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49944) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7mKf-0004qK-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:11:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7mKb-0006st-0d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:11:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:52799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7mKa-0006qg-Pc; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:11:16 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NQG00500F2POH00@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:06:57 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NQG003MQFBLAV30@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:06:57 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187476 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, tsdh@gnu.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:56:49 -0400 > > > However, standards.texi was recommending to quote 'like this' for > > quite some time now, > > That's a different issue. Sorry, I don't understand: how is that a different issue? I meant this part of standards.texi: 5.10 Quote Characters ===================== In the C locale, the output of GNU programs should stick to plain ASCII for quotation characters in messages to users: preferably 0x22 (`"') or 0x27 (`'') for both opening and closing quotes. Although GNU programs traditionally used 0x60 (``') for opening and 0x27 (`'') for closing quotes, nowadays quotes ``like this'' are typically rendered asymmetrically, so quoting `"like this"' or `'like this'' typically looks better. It clearly says that quoting 'like this' is better than `like this', doesn't it?