From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 05:31:21 +0200 Message-ID: <83twod1jee.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k2ptq5t3.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9kxx60e.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877flswse5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8737wgw7kf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87io5bv1it.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87egfzuwca.fsf@lifelogs.com> <876118u6f2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8737w3qero.fsf@lifelogs.com> <831tbn9g9j.fsf@gnu.org> <878u5upw7o.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83ziya8xph.fsf@gnu.org> <83y4du80xo.fsf@gnu.org> <837fld6lps.fsf@gnu.org> <83si3z4s5n.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvu74nhm.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1v34hba.fsf@gnu.org> <83io4u2aze.fsf@gnu.org> <8337vx3kp6.fsf@gnu.org> <83y4dp24pq.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448249520 10856 80.91.229.3 (23 Nov 2015 03:32:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 03:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: aurelien.aptel+emacs@gmail.com, tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 23 04:31:49 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a0hqz-0001tN-M3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 04:31:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58460 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0hqz-0008FX-Te for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:31:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0hqm-0008FO-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:31:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0hqj-0004Ik-5q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:31:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:45301) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0hqi-0004If-UK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:31:29 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NY800J00ZODHL00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 05:31:27 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NY900JTJ0GFF150@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 05:31:27 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195093 Archived-At: > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:10:58 +0000 > Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, aurelien.aptel+emacs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > You can call it "undefined behavior" if you want. Personally, I don't > think that's accurate: "undefined" means anything can happen, whereas > Emacs at least promises to output the original bytes unchanged, as > long as the text modifications didn't touch them. > > "Unspecified" would fit the bill better. Actually for most interesting inputs > (UTF-8 strings) the behavior is well-defined anyway. Correct. > That's the _User_ manual, it simplifies things to avoid too much > complexity. > > So where's the programmer's manual then? The source code? ;-) There's the ELisp manual, yes. It should be more accurate in this regard. > Attached a patch that uses make_multibyte_string directly. Looks good to me, thanks.