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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jess Balint <jbalint@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>,
	John Wiegley <johnw@gnu.org>
Cc: 22737@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22737: 25.1; Finalizer should be optional in dynamic modules
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:33:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83twkvcg30.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+fD2U3tELid_C5yFEhn_TQDLS7+RbR2O471-=wm48dxTHiaXA@mail.gmail.com> (message from Jess Balint on Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:53:20 -0600)

> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:53:20 -0600
> From: Jess Balint <jbalint@gmail.com>
> Cc: 22737@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  What will happen if such objects are exposed to Lisp, copied or
>  assigned to other Lisp variables, etc.? Won't this cause all kinds of
>  trouble, like modifying one such object will magically modify several
>  others, which share its storage?
> 
> This is how C code works. If you return a pointer from a function, you may have to free that pointer yourself or
> you may not. You may get the same pointer back from multiple calls to the same function. If you use the
> pointer after it's been freed, it's your problem. You need to agree with the owner of the pointer how the
> memory is to be managed. With pointers, modifications to the underlying data are visible by all who have a
> pointer to the data. I wouldn't call this "magically modifying others".

In C, yes.  But we are talking about Lisp objects here.

Am I the only one who is uneasy with supporting such Lisp objects?  If
so, I will shut up and install the changes.  Daniel, John, what's your
opinion on this?

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-26 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-18 21:52 bug#22737: 25.1; Finalizer should be optional in dynamic modules Jess Balint
2016-02-19  9:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-23 22:47   ` Jess Balint
2016-02-24  3:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-26 16:17       ` Jess Balint
2016-02-26 18:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-26 18:53           ` Jess Balint
2016-02-26 21:33             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-02-26 21:51               ` Jess Balint
2016-02-26 21:55                 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-02-29 20:28                   ` Jess Balint

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