From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog to *VC-log* Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:26:56 +0200 Message-ID: <83twken8zz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <20160306220502.GA23154@thyrsus.com> <8760wx442f.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87si00srmo.fsf_-_@gmx.net> <40522b1b-fc32-1a6c-9e69-e1df628d85a0@yandex.ru> <87oaaosh51.fsf@gmx.net> <1c5d8058-d7ed-1e2f-f83d-a3241ec7040c@yandex.ru> <878u1rih47.fsf@gmx.net> <83bn6no20q.fsf@gnu.org> <8760wvz26r.fsf@gmx.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457591230 18051 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2016 06:27:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 06:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 07:27:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adu3q-0008HL-A4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:27:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46517 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adu3p-0005Ar-M2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:27:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39107) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adu3c-0005Ad-HJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:26:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adu3Y-0001Y8-7a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:26:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34963) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adu3Y-0001Xw-4L; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:26:44 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4821 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1adu3X-0006RT-9t; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:26:43 -0500 In-reply-to: <8760wvz26r.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 10 Mar 2016 00:01:00 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201348 Archived-At: > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 00:01:00 +0100 > > > No, _you_ should create a file at top level, and then everything will > > continue working. That's why the top-level file is called > > ChangeLog.2: to keep it out of your way. > > But if Emacs can do that for me (and in so doing automatically comply > with its commit message format specification), don't you agree that's > more user-friendly? Do you see a down side to having that automatism? We are trying to bend features so that they do what we think we want when we work on Emacs. But Emacs is not only for working on Emacs, and creating a top-level ChangeLog file is not necessarily TRT for all those other projects.