From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The name gnus-cloud.el Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 18:06:57 +0200 Message-ID: <83tvweiyfy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87374jd66s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bmj6dda0.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87vahe911g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87374id7jy.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <877ett8g7k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87a7yn7tqp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878te75xa1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ind6l2tt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877etklvsa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83y3m0pv8u.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8snpew2.fsf@gnu.org> <83wp1gm2c8.fsf@gnu.org> <83k1xelgcp.fsf@gnu.org> <83po75jxiv.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514217912 532 195.159.176.226 (25 Dec 2017 16:05:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 16:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 25 17:05:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVFT-0007zC-G6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 17:05:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53005 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVHP-0006Re-1n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55901) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVHI-0006R4-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:07:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVHF-0004mL-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:07:00 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43304) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVHF-0004mC-9h; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:06:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2565 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eTVH8-0005AO-4V; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:06:50 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:34:32 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221405 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:34:32 -0500 > > There are so many ways one action can be "the opposite" of another > action that people could never agree on what the "opposite" is. > > But that's a purely academic question. The GNU Project has a policy > towards the term "cloud computing": criticize it, avoid using it, and > urge others to avoid it. Whether or not it is "the exact opposite", > it's the rational way to work against the confusion of that term. Let me just say that I've read the relevant page on the FSF site, and I support what it says, but I still think ostracizing the word "cloud" in _any_ computing-related discussion is too extreme, and may even "cloud" the minds of some of our followers. And if you don't agree, then let's agree to disagree on that.