From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33393: [gnu.org #1336696] 404 link Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 18:10:26 +0200 Message-ID: <83tvkbivbh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4F069477-F85D-4BDB-B42E-C60F529D3275@mail.umw.edu> <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542730149 16067 195.159.176.226 (20 Nov 2018 16:09:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: webmasters@gnu.org, 33393@debbugs.gnu.org To: Nicolas Petton Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 20 17:09:05 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8aG-00042H-0u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:09:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34495 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8cM-0006Cq-BZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:11:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34551) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8cE-0006Ca-OR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:11:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8cA-0007SY-L3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:59256) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8cA-0007Rf-FM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8cA-0003Mc-8y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:11:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33393 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33393-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33393.154273022812879 (code B ref 33393); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33393) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2018 16:10:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35281 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bb-0003Lf-Qk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52458) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bb-0003LQ-8N for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bR-0005Fo-Vh for 33393@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53958) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bR-0005Fi-Sl; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4652 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gP8bR-0001X7-Eb; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:10:17 -0500 In-reply-to: <87ftvwm515.fsf@petton.fr> (message from Nicolas Petton on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:12:22 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:152569 Archived-At: > From: Nicolas Petton > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:12:22 +0100 > Cc: 33393@debbugs.gnu.org > > Glenn Morris writes: > > > Thanks for the info. > > This has happened before, eg https://debbugs.gnu.org/29671 > > The simplest solution is if the FSF store keeps > > https://shop.fsf.org/product/emacs-manual/ > > working as a redirect to wherever the current manual is (or a short note > > saying that it is out of print when applicable). > > > > I will ask sales@fsf to do that, unless you know a better address? > > Can we maintain a list of redirections ourselves using a .htaccess file? > Do you know if the file will be read by the web server? I was actually about to suggest something easier: point the readers to an address that will never change, such as this: https://shop.fsf.org/collection/books-docs Of course, if we can arrange for a more focused URL that won't be invalidated by bitrot, that would be better. However, I do suggest to at least consider the "easy" solution against the risk of a 404 with the more smart one.