From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unicode confusables and reordering characters considered harmful, a simple solution Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2021 05:28:09 +0200 Message-ID: <83tugm57p2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83lf25gm1j.fsf@gnu.org> <83ee7xgio2.fsf@gnu.org> <87fssdrp54.fsf@db48x.net> <831r3xgfz3.fsf@gnu.org> <87v918qx37.fsf@db48x.net> <83o870fjqg.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0hnqr1v.fsf@db48x.net> <83ee7vdped.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6ijdnzv.fsf@gnu.org> <834k8qer8j.fsf@gnu.org> <831r3uelbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5ad1d47cbdc0838d598c@heytings.org> <83k0hlblvm.fsf@gnu.org> <7cc91c798e37e63cc6fa@heytings.org> <83wnli5r60.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19246"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, stefan@marxist.se, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, db48x@db48x.net, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 09 04:28:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mkHof-0004o4-1d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Nov 2021 04:28:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47804 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkHoc-0006om-Pc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:28:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52770) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkHo3-00068X-8V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:28:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=52264 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkHo2-0002qD-Ml; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:28:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=p7avRE6uFQ8LU30Dj/5SxGiWKfus4f5QLnrcjA10HEo=; b=jV0kngpJ39L/ U0NYxyikEJsWLbM2V0YBo+L1h5uvgvZCXEV82fa1Mcs/3868UzBIZlaZRJkbgEJK36Yo75D+G6HGL U9xslbPg/lLc0ApNCNXhLkAsgJKohqOGJIio/Ip24pHGZTVSKuAOBZ/OniBVAHc1wmpbsieZpotHb xGTWKfwMGjzrOAchXzRm/CMYLLSj0xvUS/8XKNea8shoZQSDASYb7ZG0pdY+Pc3Y98xwCFziP+auc E+mmYA22XTWYZYdOhncxRE2zYQojfayEzm3r8uEWgnUJ9+F6MfmSiKNh3vnkkbQBG2lFCBX3T2bBd HTYenHj19DXwsQ+zlF6I4w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1039 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkHo2-0004wc-A5; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:28:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 08 Nov 2021 16:59:10 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279069 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Gregory Heytings , cpitclaudel@gmail.com, > stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, db48x@db48x.net, > yuri.v.khan@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2021 16:59:10 -0500 > > > So I can only conclude that you don't understand the issues well > > enough to judge what is or isn't a good solution for them. > > >From what I've read, I get the feeling that nobody truly > understands it, actually. Well, "nobody" is an exaggeration, I think. But yes, not many do. > See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underhanded_C_Contest for examples Right.