From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Platform independent graphical display for Emacs Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 10:41:12 +0200 Message-ID: <83tueys8d3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sfujh4a2.fsf@yahoo.com> <877dbuhm6j.fsf@yahoo.com> <87tueyg5gc.fsf@yahoo.com> <83y24asbh4.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22230"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 24 09:42:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n0g9Z-0005br-IJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 09:42:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58754 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0g9X-00089W-Jj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 03:42:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0g8X-0007TU-Vk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 03:41:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=53108 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0g8W-0001KT-7b; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 03:41:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=1PGBjVLDbHRT0gHljpGLsfasEnxZQ6loYPtZq8rX6ro=; b=hIXPHA3GUShd J2EyR/lvaPstXmdx5ljxfDnN64cLy950PDccDDK5Yk9PkwHz47ywEFItVE7BVefMqwvQCiQJ4Dw99 99ZBzEsrS2R/IRyTvwV4zNWtCsd1uQyCcTbR2DaHbyNyJ/Mnd4UJFW86tvZvC6Z6Q28FWyv+k4w/6 RhX7H7tmGVP5LHsQZfRXcDSgeCaJfxK/Twdtn5EMP8y1u1Ci4fuKKwKrrtizi6MFj477ATtY5Bmc5 Dt27nbDvQqFlKs9NzFCh1g7QkiTo3aVsPJCtk3z+tIAzKDK7FdEdsDplez3vQNgvXuBftNrhmhwuT tWSOvFyaYP3wJp+/+JeBZw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1602 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0g8P-00037J-Az; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 03:41:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: (xenodasein@tutanota.de) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283103 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 09:10:20 +0100 (CET) > From: xenodasein@tutanota.de > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, > rms@gnu.org > > Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-12/msg02518.html > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > Not only that, I'd hesitate to accept such a contribution, because its > > long-term maintenance would most probably be a constant burden, and if > > the person(s) who develop such a "native" toolkit go on to greener > > pastures, we will be left with an unmaintained subsystem. > > > > So I don't think it is a good idea for Emacs to develop its own > > toolkit. We should use what's out there. > > > > Please take a look, and try to understand my frustration. I apologize for causing frustration, but if that was what you meant from the beginning, it was (and still is) hard for me to understand that this is the way you intend to go. It is a misunderstanding, and I apologize for my part of it.