From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:03:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83sk4sjw45.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83hbl8li1o.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276344355 15464 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2010 12:05:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: James Cloos Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 12 14:05:52 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONPT6-0004r6-2l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:05:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36949 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONPT5-0002jp-BU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:05:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46812 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONPSF-0002Hz-5I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONPSE-00008k-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:04:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:34549) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONPSD-00008U-SY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:04:50 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L3W00G00HHKFT00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:03:54 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.88.125]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L3W00GMCHIHDI00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:03:54 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125810 Archived-At: > From: James Cloos > Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:17:36 -0400 > Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > >> In Openoffice.org, the arrow keys move logically. > > EZ> Again, please be more specific: what does the left arrow key do in a > EZ> R2L paragraph? Does it go backwards in the text, eventually ending up > EZ> at the first text character, or does it go forward? > > Again, I used the terms correctly. If I wrote logically then the RIGHT > key moved forward in reading direction and the LEFT backward. So what does the RIGHT arrow do in a R2L paragraph, i.e. in a paragraph that is displayed flushed all the way to the right margin of the window? Are you saying that the RIGHT arrow actually moves to the _left_ in such a paragraph? (You say that RIGHT moves in the reading direction, but the reading direction in a R2L paragraph is right to left.)