From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15648: 24.2.50; gnutls SSL connection to IMAP server causes emacs to crash completely Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:58:05 +0200 Message-ID: <83sivc85pe.fsf@gnu.org> References: <21089.32240.198931.971000@consult.pretender> <87fvrun1pw.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21093.32992.278229.646703@consult.pretender> <877gd5mo5x.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21094.39055.449629.706850@consult.pretender> <21094.40085.664080.69561@consult.pretender> <21094.52645.645440.977584@consult.pretender> <21094.64459.131668.849138@consult.pretender> <21095.19949.639350.970770@consult.pretender> <21096.24492.292723.589004@consult.pretender> <87eh7bj5no.fsf_-_@flea.lifelogs.com> <21097.10816.221279.461499@consult.pretender> <21097.27136.910137.181740@consult.pretender> <21098.31018.184128.497305@consult.pretender> <87y555socz.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21110.26587.721061.28128@consult.pretender> <83fvrd9ysr.fsf@gnu.org> <877gcorv0r.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383584354 27656 80.91.229.3 (4 Nov 2013 16:59:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs@kosowsky.org, 15648@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 04 17:59:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNUh-0005Sq-RD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:59:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50949 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNUh-0001Ur-3r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:59:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58591) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNUZ-0001SV-9x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:59:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNUU-0001xI-Dh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:59:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48616) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNUU-0001xC-AS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:59:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNUT-0008Og-Qp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:59:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15648 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15648-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15648.138358430232223 (code B ref 15648); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15648) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 16:58:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNTp-0008Ne-42 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:58:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:43309) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNTl-0008NP-Aj for 15648@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:58:19 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVR00B000DH5U00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15648@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:58:09 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVR00BML0GX1220@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:58:09 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <877gcorv0r.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79975 Archived-At: > From: Ted Zlatanov > Cc: emacs@kosowsky.org, 15648@debbugs.gnu.org > Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes > Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:28:36 -0500 > > >> The function is called convert-standard-filename. All it really does > >> currently is replace invalid characters/filenames for > >> cygwin/windows-nt/ms-dos. > > EZ> No, please leave that function alone. Its purpose is different: to > EZ> convert a _standard_ file name used in Emacs, such as ".emacs", to > EZ> something the underlying system can use. IOW, that function is so > EZ> that Posix systems could use any file name they want, and non-Posix > EZ> systems adapt. > > Isn't that exactly what's breaking here? No. > We specify a POSIX file name in `/usr/...' that's not translated > automatically to something the system can handle. The Windows filesystems can handle /usr/... very well. The problem here is that some external entity is assigning a semantics to that file name that is different from the meaning it has on the native filesystem. By contrast, convert-standard-filename is about _form_, not about _semantics_.