From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Obscure error/warning/information message from git pull Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:47:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83sihf97hm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141114120604.GA3859@acm.acm> <87389mkjwo.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <20141114141434.GM3565@embecosm.com> <20141114180521.GA3168@acm.acm> <20141114230235.GF3168@acm.acm> <20141117141123.GA4294@acm.acm> <83lhn89zxn.fsf@gnu.org> <83bno49xtw.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416368889 19375 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2014 03:48:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sorganov@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Yates Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 19 04:48:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XqwFN-00034J-In for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 04:48:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56371 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqwFN-0001wd-7l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56310) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqwF6-0001wV-Bp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:47:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqwF1-0002tv-Co for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:47:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:36521) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqwF1-0002tf-4j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:47:39 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NF900K00OVKPP00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:45:47 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NF900BLEP4B9580@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:45:47 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.185 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:177708 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:59:58 -0500 > From: John Yates > Cc: Sergey Organov , Emacs developers > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > You cannot help people understand new tools if you start by telling > them to forget everything they've learned. You should instead build > on what they know, or think they know, gradually replacing that with > new knowledge. > > Earlier VCS often had more reified branches. A phrase that crops up a > lot in git descriptions is "lightweight branching". This was achieved > by paring back the branch concept - leaving nothing more than the nodes > reachable from a named ref - and by making ref manipulation very common. > > When contrasting git to earlier VCS in none of the git intros I have > read have I seen that particular point made. You are again talking about differences in implementation. "Branch" the concept does not change a bit, no matter what VCS are you using.