From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:13:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83sih1ahpk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a93cngwv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837fyfml31.fsf@gnu.org> <874mtio7wh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83r3wml8kq.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjb9an0q.fsf@gnu.org> <83vblxaloh.fsf@gnu.org> <8761dxvn1j.fsf@igel.home> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417292017 16117 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2014 20:13:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas Schwab Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 29 21:13:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XuoOY-0007xS-1Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 21:13:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48736 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuoOX-0007QL-7m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:13:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuoOP-0007OE-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:13:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuoOG-0001Z5-6W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:13:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:62968) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuoOF-0001Yk-U4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:13:12 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NFT00J00H28AT00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:13:10 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NFT00IV5HHYSS80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:13:10 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <8761dxvn1j.fsf@igel.home> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178485 Archived-At: > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:12:24 +0100 > > >> Yeah, isn't that a bit too intrusive if done generally? > > > > I didn't suggest to do that generally, just in Web pages. These > > format controls are discouraged in Web pages anyway; the use of HTML > > bidi markup dir="rtl" etc. is advised instead. > > But the problem at hand is not relevant to Web pages. The URL in an > anchor is always a separate entity. Only non-HTML text where URLs are > made active by heuristics are the case to worry about. Then I guess it's even easier. Of course, we still have ffap and the likes, which do their thing even in general-purpose text.