From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 20:05:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sigy53m2.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831toi6r4w.fsf@gnu.org>
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:52:15 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > It is easy to make an option turn off bidi processing.
> > All it has to do is make all characters seem LTR.
>
> That doesn't disable reordering, it just makes the results
> indistinguishable.
Actually, even this is not true: the directional overrides will still
have their effect. So deeper changes are needed to countermand that
as well.
And I still don't understand the purpose of such a feature. Users who
cannot read RTL won't be able to understand the text either way, and
don't know what is "the right" display to make any sense out of what
will be presented when bidi processing is "turned off".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-02 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-28 2:51 Bidirectional text and URLs Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-28 3:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-28 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 6:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-29 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 17:05 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-29 17:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 17:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 17:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 18:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 9:38 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 18:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 19:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-29 19:31 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 19:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-29 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 16:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 17:29 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-30 17:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 18:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 19:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 19:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 20:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 19:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 21:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 21:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 3:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 16:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 17:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 18:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-02 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 16:31 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 19:15 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 19:15 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 20:30 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-01 20:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 14:45 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:45 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 8:39 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 9:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 11:16 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 22:43 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 23:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 12:06 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-06 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 22:43 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 23:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 12:06 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:44 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 8:39 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 9:38 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 10:17 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 14:42 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 8:38 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 11:56 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-03 17:12 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-04 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 20:25 ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-02 14:42 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-12-03 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 23:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-07 9:20 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-07 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-08 0:26 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-29 17:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-30 13:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-30 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 10:18 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 18:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-01 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 20:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-01 20:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 14:42 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 8:39 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-28 11:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-28 13:58 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-28 19:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-28 21:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-29 0:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-28 22:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-28 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-28 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 6:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-28 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-28 17:09 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-28 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 17:03 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-29 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 9:37 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 10:18 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-28 19:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-29 17:04 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-29 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 9:38 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 23:39 ` chad
2014-12-01 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 8:01 ` chad
2014-12-01 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 14:41 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 19:17 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 10:18 ` Richard Stallman
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