From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC mode and git Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 22:03:34 +0300 Message-ID: <83sicq1cvt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86egoeusg2.fsf@example.com> <87384qzxqy.fsf@igel.home> <83bnjen71r.fsf@gnu.org> <83twx6a7wm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427483049 31378 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2015 19:04:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 19:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sva-news@mygooglest.com, schwab@suse.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 27 20:03:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YbZXk-0000BS-76 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 20:03:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51376 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbZXj-0007JX-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:03:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45467) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbZXg-0007JG-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:03:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbZXc-0008N8-QV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:52685) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbZXc-0008Mo-It; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:03:36 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NLV00M00WQUUO00@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 22:02:15 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NLV00NC7WVR2U00@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 22:02:15 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184418 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: schwab@suse.de, sva-news@mygooglest.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:53:52 -0400 > > > The broader issue is how to generalize RCS-style vc-next-action to > > modern dVCSes. I think the current "generalization" is mostly a net > > loss; we can and should do better. > > Back in RCS times, the set of possible actions at any given time was > limited by constraints imposed by the tool. That's why generalization is non-trivial. > A lot of the motivation behind the subsequent tools has been to try and > lift this constraints, and as a result, unsurprisingly most operations > can now be applied at any time. > So the DWIM element of C-x v v is indeed by nature very difficult to > port from RCS to Git/Hg/Bzr/Younameit. > > So I think that refining C-x v v is pretty hopeless. I won't stop > anyone from doing it, but I think it's a complete waste of time. I posted earlier 2 workflows I routinely use that are clear candidates for "C-x v v".