From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:44:38 +0300 Message-ID: <83si9plau1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <55826DCC.9040404@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434613520 12028 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2015 07:45:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 18 09:45:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5UVW-0005tA-37 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:45:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5UVV-0003u3-Ej for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33509) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5UVJ-0003tx-6h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:44:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5UVE-0003e8-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:44:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:39932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5UVE-0003dm-GC; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 03:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NQ400600QN0PW00@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:40:26 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NQ400O4YQNDMN70@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:40:26 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <55826DCC.9040404@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187269 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 00:05:48 -0700 > From: Paul Eggert > Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > May 8 predates the changes involving curved quotes, so the comments in your > email don't apply to the current Emacs master. The current Emacs and Elisp > manuals say how to enter curved quotes and etc/NEWS briefly notes the changes. > It no longer takes 8 keystrokes (or even 4) to enter a curved quote -- I suggest > using the new Electric Quote minor mode, where it typically takes just 1 > keystroke. Other shorthands are also available. I suggest to mention the Electric Quote mode (and perhaps other related features for typing those characters) in NEWS, and have that referenced right where we describe in NEWS their use in doc strings.