From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:39:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83si5gnfyv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <5618E51D.4070800@yandex.ru> <83twpzrp05.fsf@gnu.org> <5618ED93.8000001@yandex.ru> <83lhbbrnn7.fsf@gnu.org> <56191D6B.8040405@yandex.ru> <838u7assvj.fsf@gnu.org> <5619506B.3050303@gmx.at> <561A382E.6050008@yandex.ru> <561A390E.9020709@gmx.at> <561A3A1D.700@yandex.ru> <878u79ob0m.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <561A5471.4080406@yandex.ru> <87zizpmvhg.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <561A5C64.1090209@yandex.ru> <561B9D3E.3060606@siege-engine.com> <561B9DE9.3040907@yandex.ru> <83a8roozcq.fsf@gnu.org> <561BDE17.4030401@yandex.ru> <83y4f8nhw7.fsf@gnu.org> <561BED54.8010602@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444671689 5925 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2015 17:41:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 17:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org, adatgyujto@gmail.com, deng@randomsample.de, eric@siege-engine.com To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 19:41:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlh65-0008G2-Au for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:41:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57712 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlh64-0005b8-PH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:41:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlh61-0005b3-Ek for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:41:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlh5y-0005lw-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:41:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:60835) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlh5x-0005lj-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:41:10 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NW400D00BG1QQ00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:39:41 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NW400D1WBQ4L390@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:39:41 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <561BED54.8010602@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191372 Archived-At: > Cc: eric@siege-engine.com, deng@randomsample.de, rudalics@gmx.at, > adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:26:44 +0300 > > On 10/12/2015 07:58 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > OK, then I guess having small frames is the way to go. But then we'd > > need to come up with some alternative for text-mode terminals. > > In terminal, we won't be able to use the decorations anyway > (right?). On a TTY, there are no decorations, of course. Worse,a frame you want to display completely obscures all the other frames, which is unacceptable for this kind of features. > So if the Lisp interface for graphical-mode menus is the same as for > terminal menus, we can create a menu-based popup implementation > anyway. Yes, the interface is the same: x-popup-menu. > In that case, since it'll work everywhere, it would be a good first > step, while small frames can be left for later. Right.