From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 64 bit official Windows builds
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:51:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83si0y71mf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mvr6s5rm.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from Óscar Fuentes on Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:16:13 +0100)
> From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:16:13 +0100
>
> >> Not saying that GNU Find will be representative of what you can expect
> >> from Emacs. (GNU Find: I/O bound; Emacs: user bound.)
> >
> > Performance only matters when you do prolonged operations. One such
> > prolonged operation in Emacs is reading a directory in Dired, in which
> > case what Emacs does is quite similar to what Find does. For someone
> > who uses Dired extensively, the GNU Find example is not irrelevant.
>
> Are there reports about Dired being slow on Windows 32 bits? Just
> curious.
Compared to what? a Posix host that runs 'ls' instead? you betcha!
Comparing that to a 64-bit Emacs would be a good measurement, I think.
I didn't try that.
> > Memory- and CPU-intensive operations is another matter. But here,
> > too, I'd welcome actual measurements more than theories. Measurements
> > can and do surprise, as is known to anyone who ever profiled a
> > real-life program.
>
> I'm glad you think this way. So now we have agreed that the existence of
> a dramatic performance gap between 32 and 64 bits Emacs executables and
> its cause being API thunking is just a theory of yours based on limited
> evidence :-)
I actually said that already in my reply to Stefan, didn't I?
> My also (limited) evidence is that 64 bit Windows binaries can be a bit
> faster than 32 bit ones, and vice-versa. For instance: my experience
> building complex C++ code with GCC is that the 32 bit compiler runs a
> bit faster than its 64 bit version. For Emacs, I see no difference, it
> is responsive on both systems.
Responsiveness is not what is at stake here, as I already wrote. You
need some prolonged operation, either I/O intensive or CPU- or
memory-intensive (or both). Try repeatedly searching a regexp through
a large buffer, or run XML validation on a large XML document, or
anything similar.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-12 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-24 23:01 64 bit official Windows builds Sam Halliday
2015-12-25 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-25 13:35 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-12-25 14:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-25 15:32 ` Random832
2015-12-25 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-07 22:47 ` Arash Esbati
2016-01-08 9:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-08 21:42 ` Arash Esbati
2016-01-09 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1936.1452244338.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-08 10:44 ` Sam Halliday
2016-01-08 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1913.1452206888.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-09 13:04 ` Sam Halliday
2016-01-10 21:19 ` Arash Esbati
2016-02-11 21:21 ` Nicolas Petton
2016-02-11 21:35 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-11 21:53 ` John Mastro
[not found] ` <mailman.556.1451028922.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-07 22:38 ` Sam Halliday
2016-01-07 23:15 ` Rasmus
2016-01-08 9:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 17:44 ` moocow062
2016-02-08 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 18:29 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-08 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-11 20:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-11 22:16 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 7:16 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 8:16 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-02-08 22:13 ` djc
2016-02-08 22:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
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