From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23609: 25.0.92; Python eldoc freeze Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 21:41:35 +0300 Message-ID: <83shx3z6lc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <867fejo4g2.fsf@gmail.com> <57454201.10607@easy-emacs.de> <86bn3umahs.fsf@gmail.com> <5745C5D9.50701@easy-emacs.de> <861t4orf3h.fsf@gmail.com> <834m9k3hmz.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpmg229w.fsf@gnu.org> <86mvncpwso.fsf@gmail.com> <83d1o726si.fsf@gnu.org> <83twhjzhow.fsf@gnu.org> <174m9jzew1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1464374550 18108 80.91.229.3 (27 May 2016 18:42:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 18:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, jtamagnan@gmail.com, 23609@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 27 20:42:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b6Mi6-0006P2-1Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 20:42:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47375 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6Mi5-0008Qv-AF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:42:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47011) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6Mhy-0008Po-Ru for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6Mhu-0003bP-Ms for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58737) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6Mhu-0003bK-JT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b6Mhu-0002Fp-FA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:42:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 18:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23609 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23609-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23609.14643744978631 (code B ref 23609); Fri, 27 May 2016 18:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23609) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2016 18:41:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b6MhU-0002F9-VH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:41:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55949) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b6MhT-0002Ew-Kd for 23609@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6MhL-0003T7-G5 for 23609@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6MhL-0003T3-Cu; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:41:27 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3584 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1b6MhJ-00068y-5a; Fri, 27 May 2016 14:41:25 -0400 In-reply-to: <174m9jzew1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Fri, 27 May 2016 11:42:22 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:118773 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: jtamagnan@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, 23609@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:42:22 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Please don't add this bug to the list of those which block 25.1 > > without discussing that here first. > > That's a new rule. No, it isn't. I was asked whether the bug should block, and answered that it shouldn't, providing my rationale. Given that answer, common sense would have it that adding the bug to the list without discussion is not TRT. > It's a bad regression that could easily be worked around by defaulting > eldoc mode to off in python mode. That could be done very easily. That a bug doesn't block the release doesn't mean it cannot be easily fixed, or that a fix won't be accepted on the release branch. I said that as well back when I was asked.