From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 21:49:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83shq4lrn7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2nplmb.fsf@gnu.org> <83inr2oje6.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwuogfb.fsf@gnu.org> <878trydrbo.fsf@red-bean.com> <83a8cem1eq.fsf@gnu.org> <83zikdl7oo.fsf@gnu.org> <83y3zxkwms.fsf@gnu.org> <7e4c5cce-a566-2c1f-8032-01d206c65c99@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480794617 13231 195.159.176.226 (3 Dec 2016 19:50:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 19:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 20:50:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cDGK4-0002rA-MI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 20:50:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52284 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDGK8-0003DO-C1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:50:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDGJX-0003DH-Un for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:49:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDGJU-0005aD-Se for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:49:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49467) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cDGJU-0005a5-P8; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:49:36 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4326 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cDGJR-0005ia-UJ; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 14:49:36 -0500 In-reply-to: <7e4c5cce-a566-2c1f-8032-01d206c65c99@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:41:43 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209990 Archived-At: > Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:41:43 -0800 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > the last two major bugs that were detected by GC were bug#24478 and bug#24640. > > I don't see how this is counting. I don't see the relationship between bug#24478 > and GC. Bug#24640 was a crash but the bug report was not marked as serious. Crashes in GC are always serious, because you can never know what caused them. In that case, it turned out that reading objects with the #n=object form was broken, quite a serious problem. > If we're merely counting GC-related things that broke Emacs, a > more-recently-fixed bug related to GC was not reported to bug-gnu-emacs at all; > it's something I fixed two days ago in the release branch, which fixed a broken > build with the Oracle Developer Studio C compiler. Indeed, problems that are revealed in GC are not very rare. > On the other hand, if we're talking about truly major bugs detected by GC, then > Emacs currently doesn't work on FreeBSD 11 arm64 due to GC-related problems that > Daniel's patches would fix. This is Bug#24892, marked as serious, and it pretty > clearly outranks all the other bugs mentioned in this thread. There's more than one problem, and no single solution can fix them all.