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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 37940b3: min and max now return one of their arguments
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 18:10:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83shmmfn21.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3530106c-241e-c7e5-f01a-7462b98db737@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Wed, 8 Mar 2017 14:04:54 -0800)

> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 14:04:54 -0800
> 
> On 03/08/2017 07:54 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Don't programmers
> > assume in general that comparisons between values some of which are
> > floats are always done after converting_all_  values to the
> > floating-point representation?
> 
> No, and that hasn't been true for Emacs Lisp for quite some time. In 
> Emacs 25, (<= 10000000000000001 10000000000000000 1e16) returns the 
> mathematically-correct answer nil on a 64-bit GNU/Linux host even though 
> it would return t if all values were first converted to float.

Not sure what that demonstrates, but I get

  (<= 10000000000000001 1e16) => t

in Emacs 25.1 on a 64-bit GNU/Linux host.

> More generally, although people expect statically typed languages to 
> convert alternatives to float (e.g., C programmers expect (1.5 > 2 ? 1.5 
> : 2) to return 2.0 not 2), dynamically typed languages are different: 
> Lisp programmers expect (if (> 1.5 2) 1.5 2) to return 2 not 2.0.

I'm not sure this is so, and anyway getting 2.0 should not matter in
Emacs Lisp.

> > I find the commentary in 'arithcompare' not detailed enough
> I installed the attached, which I hope helps.

Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-09 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170307012700.3354.30219@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20170307012701.1C05D23F1F@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2017-03-07 15:04   ` [Emacs-diffs] master 37940b3: min and max now return one of their arguments Stefan Monnier
2017-03-08  3:04     ` John Wiegley
2017-03-08  6:08     ` Paul Eggert
2017-03-08 15:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-08 22:04         ` Paul Eggert
2017-03-09 16:10           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-03-09 16:25             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-03-09 16:54               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 17:09                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-03-09 17:45             ` Paul Eggert
2017-03-09 18:34               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-07 19:08   ` Glenn Morris
2017-03-08  4:26     ` Tino Calancha
2017-03-08  5:27     ` Paul Eggert
2017-03-08  7:54       ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-08  8:29       ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-08 18:47         ` Paul Eggert
2017-03-08 22:10           ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-11 14:46       ` Andreas Politz
2017-03-12  1:46         ` Tino Calancha
2017-03-12 23:33           ` Andreas Politz

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