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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Tak Kunihiro <tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp>
Cc: 26347@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#26347: patch for mwheel.el
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 05:36:39 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83shlnoa14.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FADE4948-E15F-42C5-A1A8-DF9E4ABE278C@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> (message from Tak Kunihiro on Wed, 5 Apr 2017 08:18:42 +0900)

> From: Tak Kunihiro <tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp>
> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 08:18:42 +0900
> Cc: Kunihiro Tak <tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp>,
>  rudalics@gmx.at,
>  26347@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Now I leaned auto-hscroll-mode is irrelevant to horizontal scroll.
> However, I still insist that it should be off on horizontal and
> vertical scrolling.
> 
> (A) It should be off during vertical scroll.  Let’s consider a buffer
>    is with short and long alternative lines and when point is at the
>    end of long line, at the top of current window.  After `scroll-up
>    1', point jumps to the end of the next short line and you see scope
>    shifts suddenly leftward. This behavior is sometimes unexpected
>    one.
> 
> (B) It should be off during horizontal scroll.  During horizontal
>    scroll, you may scroll a little in vertical direction without
>    intention.  The horizontal scroll should be tolerance against such
>    perturbation.  The source of concern is same as (A).
> 
> The concern (A) is shared with vertical scroll-bar.  With this
> respect, the concern should be solved by `scroll-up' not by
> `mwheel-scroll'.
> 
> I think when point moves off the left edge of the window with cursor
> frozen at the left edge of the window, `scroll-up' should scroll up
> without horizontal shift.
> 
> Conclusion: Yes.

The considerations you present are not special to the proposed
horizontal scrolling using a mouse wheel, they are valid for any
scrolling.  IOW, this is how scrolling behaved in Emacs since about
forever.  And I think it's not a good idea to have some methods of
scrolling behave differently from others.  So I could agree to having
a user option to temporarily disable auto-hscroll-mode during
scrolling, but the default behavior should be what we have now, and
the option should affect all methods of scrolling alike.

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-05  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-03 11:11 bug#26347: patch for mwheel.el Tak Kunihiro
2017-04-03 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-04  0:55   ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-04-04  2:52     ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-04-04  7:25       ` martin rudalics
2017-04-04 11:35       ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-04-04 14:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-04 23:18           ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-04-05  2:36             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-04-05  3:35               ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-04-11  9:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-11 23:56                   ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-04-12 13:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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