From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: movemail Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 21:46:19 +0300 Message-ID: <83shhbyvlw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83a83k0yu5.fsf@gnu.org> <1bcddec1-befd-fffc-b5b4-ec7f1e3bd844@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501613270 4745 195.159.176.226 (1 Aug 2017 18:47:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 18:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 01 20:47:44 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dccCf-0000cj-0v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 20:47:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44062 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dccCl-00024m-0r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47803) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dccCA-00023K-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:47:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dccC6-0008Qr-OY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dccC6-0008Ql-LA; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4962 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dccBx-0002Xi-F3; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 14:46:55 -0400 In-reply-to: <1bcddec1-befd-fffc-b5b4-ec7f1e3bd844@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:18:57 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217219 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:18:57 -0700 > > >> Should we delete the movemail program, given these problems with it? > > No, because non-Posix systems have no choice but use it. Gnu > > Mailutils are blatantly Posix-centric and don't build on anything > > else. > > Instead of deleting movemail, we could change 'configure' so that > '--without-pop' is the default. This wouldn't affect platforms that use GNU > Mailutils, and would improve security on other platforms' default installation. Once again, since the main mass of users of this program seems no longer to dwell on Posix platforms, please do NOT take away the POP3 option by default.