From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28945: 25.2; desktop auto save timer does not work Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83she57nnq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87k1znuphh.fsf@gmail.com> <8360b7ayzq.fsf@gnu.org> <87efpvulk1.fsf@gmail.com> <83376bawts.fsf@gnu.org> <871slt64v1.fsf@gmail.com> <83a80hac80.fsf@gnu.org> <83vaj47y99.fsf@gnu.org> <838tfx9a8f.fsf@gnu.org> <83tvyl7s2y.fsf@gnu.org> <605fd263-28c0-4de6-8f80-5381cef6a16d@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1509043642 31721 195.159.176.226 (26 Oct 2017 18:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pe.neidhardt@googlemail.com, rms@gnu.org, 28945@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 26 20:47:16 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nBM-0006r8-R6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:47:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54195 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nBU-0001CF-4m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:47:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45901) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nBK-0001Ak-9Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:47:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nBG-0002iO-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nBG-0002i4-0a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nBF-00047L-OZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:47:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28945 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28945-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28945.150904361915819 (code B ref 28945); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28945) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2017 18:46:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35465 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nBB-000473-4R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:46:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nB7-00046i-7z for 28945@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:46:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nAy-0002HU-76 for 28945@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:46:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nAy-0002HQ-38; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:46:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2550 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e7nAp-0004EX-Ks; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:46:37 -0400 In-reply-to: <605fd263-28c0-4de6-8f80-5381cef6a16d@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:28:08 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:139032 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:28:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: rms@gnu.org, pe.neidhardt@googlemail.com, 28945@debbugs.gnu.org > > Fait accompli, maybe. But once and for all, over and > done with? No, of course not. My point was just that the reasons why it was done back then are no longer relevant; we should instead see whether we have sufficient justification to change behavior that is the default for the last 3 years. > Too bad also, if, as you say, this question should have > been asked back then, that it wasn't asked by those who > were looking at the possible new feature. (I don't know > that it wasn't asked, but you seem to suggest that, by > saying that it should have been.) No, I don't know whether it was asked, I didn't do any research about that. I don't remember any discussions, but that doesn't mean there were none.