From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29872: 26.0.90; `man' output encoding, hyphen chars Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 11:48:55 +0200 Message-ID: <83shbtg8zc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <2dfed463-2ddb-4591-a476-c78e0b8d445b@default> <838tdnh6ej.fsf@gnu.org> <5a25751a-3a68-4e44-862f-44fa47871c04@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514540897 23216 195.159.176.226 (29 Dec 2017 09:48:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 29872@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 29 10:48:13 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrGr-0005QU-DZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 10:48:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34749 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrIq-00079q-9b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:50:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37944) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrIk-00079Y-Kg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:50:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrIg-0005gx-Op for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:50:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47098) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrIg-0005gj-MF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:50:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrIg-0003iL-En for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:50:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29872 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29872-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29872.151454096314231 (code B ref 29872); Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29872) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2017 09:49:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrI3-0003hR-8d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:49:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46563) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrI2-0003hG-Ln for 29872@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:49:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrHu-0005GB-Lj for 29872@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:49:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38309) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrHu-0005G5-IA; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:49:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3091 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eUrHr-0001f0-QL; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 04:49:13 -0500 In-reply-to: <5a25751a-3a68-4e44-862f-44fa47871c04@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:52:30 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141590 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:52:30 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 29872@debbugs.gnu.org > > In Emacs 25.3.1 and prior I see a hyphen character > instead. I thought that was clear. It wasn't clear because you never said that explicitly, and because "hyphen" is ambiguous in this context: it could refer to ASCII '-' character or to non-ASCII '­' or to non-ASCII '‐'. They are all different characters, and potentially hint on different problems. > This manual page documents the GNU version of find. GNU find searches > the directory tree rooted at each given file name by evaluating the > given expression from left to right, according to the rules of prece- > dence (see section OPERATORS), until the outcome is known (the left > > `C-u C-x =' before that hyphen says this: > > name: HYPHEN-MINUS > general-category: Pd (Punctuation, Dash) > decomposition: (45) ('-') > > (BTW, I showed only that one hyphen occurrence, but all of > the "hyphens" show the same problem in Emacs 26 and later.) OK. If you manually load man.el from Emacs 25, does the problem go away? Also, if you invoke the 'man' command from the Bash shell and redirect its output to a file, what characters/bytes do you see in place of those hyphens in the file created by that command?