From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-26 275e735: More changes in the Emacs manuals Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:09:40 +0200 Message-ID: <83sh9w9a97.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180219161442.31005.31151@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20180219161444.4763E20A22@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87r2pgudn0.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1519060085 16074 195.159.176.226 (19 Feb 2018 17:08:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 19 18:08:00 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1enoum-0002wZ-9r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:07:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51429 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enowo-0003pH-Cn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:09:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enowa-0003nU-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enowX-0004KH-3t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:09:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enowW-0004K7-Vk; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:09:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2627 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1enowW-0003qG-Fi; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:09:32 -0500 In-reply-to: <87r2pgudn0.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:50:59 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222903 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:50:59 +0100 > > > You can use a numeric argument before a self-inserting character to > > insert multiple copies of it. This is straightforward when the > > -character is not a digit; for example, @kbd{C-u 6 4 a} inserts 64 > > +character is not a digit; for example, @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 a}} inserts 64 > > copies of the character @samp{a}. But this does not work for > > -inserting digits; @kbd{C-u 6 4 1} specifies an argument of 641. You > > -can separate the argument from the digit to insert with another > > -@kbd{C-u}; for example, @kbd{C-u 6 4 C-u 1} does insert 64 copies of > > -the character @samp{1}. > > +inserting digits; @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 1}} specifies an argument of 641. > > +You can separate the argument from the digit to insert with another > > +@kbd{C-u}; for example, @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 C-u 1}} does insert 64 copies > > +of the character @samp{1}. > > > > 'does insert' => 'inserts'. There's no contrasting with a previous > 'does not' phrase going on. Yes, there is such a contrast: note the "does not work" part. > > The @dfn{state} of the group indicates whether setting in that group > > -has been edited, set or saved. @xref{Changing a Variable}. > > +has been edited, set, or saved. @xref{Changing a Variable}. > > Are we standardising on the Oxford comma now? I heartily approve. Ah, so that's what it's called...