From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: EMACS=t Joy and Happiness Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 09:16:16 +0300 Message-ID: <83sh6g9s5r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tvqw4w8s.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6443412a-5803-d9c0-1ef3-ece7f49c43e1@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527228877 7452 195.159.176.226 (25 May 2018 06:14:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 06:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20484@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, 20202@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 25 08:14:33 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fM5zk-0001po-7T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 08:14:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42031 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM61r-0002of-13 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:16:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48375) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM61e-0002nX-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:16:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM61a-00025S-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:16:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52231) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM61E-0001wN-ST; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1217 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fM61E-0005ZT-8H; Fri, 25 May 2018 02:16:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <6443412a-5803-d9c0-1ef3-ece7f49c43e1@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 24 May 2018 15:03:56 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225700 Archived-At: > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 15:03:56 -0700 > Cc: 20202@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , > 20484@debbugs.gnu.org > > Bash 4.4 came out only in September 2016, and it's too soon to assume > it. I agree, 1.5 years is too soon. I think we need 5 years at least. > How about this idea: At Emacs build time, we check whether Bash is 4.4 > or later, and if so we use a term.el that assumes bash 4.4 or later. > Otherwise, we use a term.el that interrogates the shell dynamically for > whether it is shell and if so what its version number is, the first time > that Emacs runs a process under a shell. The first part will only work if Emacs is used on the same system where it is built, right? Is that a good assumption, given all the binary distributions?