From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: EMACS=t Joy and Happiness Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 13:57:39 +0300 Message-ID: <83sh6e8z18.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tvqw4w8s.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6443412a-5803-d9c0-1ef3-ece7f49c43e1@cs.ucla.edu> <8897E590-091D-4822-A3E8-9D1889E16995@scratch.space> <83y3g6984k.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527332156 28421 195.159.176.226 (26 May 2018 10:55:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 10:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Van L Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 26 12:55:51 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMWrX-0007IK-Qv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 12:55:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48460 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMWte-0002xR-Ic for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 06:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMWtY-0002x8-9P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 06:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMWtV-0002XT-7E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2018 06:57:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMWtV-0002XL-3Y; Sat, 26 May 2018 06:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4063 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fMWtU-0005lX-8B; Sat, 26 May 2018 06:57:52 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Van L on Sat, 26 May 2018 20:07:42 +1000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225750 Archived-At: > From: Van L > Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 20:07:42 +1000 > Cc: Emacs-Devel devel > > > I guess you never had the experience of upgrading a system in a > > production-type environments, with a large number of users, each of > > whom has their specific requirements and packages that need to > > continue running smoothly. > > Let’s not get personal. I wasn't. > This is about the system and upgrades. Yes, it is. And the experience one has with systems and their upgrades affects one's views on the existence and importance of Enterprise distributions. Which is why I mentioned that experience.