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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Daniel Colascione" <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, 34655@debbugs.gnu.org, p.stephani2@gmail.com,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#34655: 26.1.92; Segfault in module with --module-assertions
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 11:17:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sgvfs4p7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54c0397230795ccc3701339de617d887.squirrel@dancol.org>

> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:48:28 -0700
> From: "Daniel Colascione" <dancol@dancol.org>
> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,
>  "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
>  "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>,
>  34655@debbugs.gnu.org,
>  "Daniel Colascione" <dancol@dancol.org>
> 
> > No we can't. Modules can contain arbitrary code and call arbitrary
> > libraries, which we can't ever control. We need to work with
> > everything that provides a C-compatible interface.
> 
> Modules can contain arbitrary code, but they don't have to do arbitrary
> things with that code. Right now, the contract between modules and Emacs
> is something like "any value that, I, Emacs, can't find on an
> Emacs-findable thread is fair game for memory reclaimation." In practice,
> that works okay most of the time, but if we have to deal with environments
> that can't guarantee that Emacs values remain on the C stack, we can
> extend the contract with something like "I, module, am handing you, Emacs,
> an array of emacs_values, and in addition to my stack, you should check
> this array before considering a value dead" --- that is, we could just
> provide a way for a module to associate a bunch of additional GC roots
> with a given context. Then something like Go could stick any temporary
> Emacs values in this array.
> 
> Or we could just have these environments create permanent references.

OK, thanks.

What are your opinions regarding usability of stack marking for
emacs_value variables used by modules?





  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-22  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-25 21:00 bug#34655: 26.1.92; Segfault in module with --module-assertions Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-02-26  2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-26 11:16   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-02-26 15:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-26 18:42       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-02-27  4:10     ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-26 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 16:38   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-03-17 17:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-17 23:52       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-03-18 16:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-18 16:58           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-03-18 17:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 16:11               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-03-21 17:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 18:28                   ` Philipp Stephani
2019-03-21 19:23                     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-03-21 19:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 21:29                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-03-22  7:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 19:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 19:37                       ` Philipp Stephani
2019-03-21 19:50                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 20:01                           ` Philipp Stephani
2019-03-21 20:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 20:26                               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-03-21 20:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-21 20:48                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-03-22  8:17                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-03-21 21:31                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-03-22  0:56                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22  8:16                         ` Eli Zaretskii

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