From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#47439: 27.2; In daemon mode, if after-init-hook errors out, the server does not start Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 17:55:31 +0300 Message-ID: <83sg4fmios.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czvjs7pq.fsf@gnus.org> <83zgynml0n.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg4fqqxn.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24213"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gilles.usenet@gmail.com, 47439@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 28 16:56:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWpp-0006CC-5n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:56:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35772 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWpn-0002ou-Qe for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:56:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36650) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWpe-0002nX-GN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWpe-0006SX-8m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWpe-0004vx-4l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 14:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 47439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47439.161694333818913 (code B ref 47439); Sun, 28 Mar 2021 14:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 47439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2021 14:55:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46748 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWpG-0004uz-1O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:55:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43530) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWpF-0004uo-CL for 47439@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:55:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53236) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWpA-00069q-1q; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:55:32 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3414 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lQWp0-0004Ow-Lt; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:55:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sg4fqqxn.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:43:48 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:203174 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: gilles.usenet@gmail.com, 47439@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:43:48 +0200 > > I don't know why the doc string here specifies that there's no error > handling of this hook in particular -- that's the default for hooks, > right? > > It seems that it first appeared in 1992: > > + "Functions to call after loading the init file (~/.emacs). > +The call is not protected by a condition-case, so you can set `debug-on-error' > +in .emacs, and put all the actual code on `after-init-hook'.") > > Which is even more confusing -- it seems like the point here is that > this is a way to run init code, but get debugging? We now have a > separate facility for that, so that bit doesn't seem very important any > more. It definitely predates the daemon. and I think it relates to what "--debug-init" does. > Anyway -- I think perhaps continuing on here and starting the daemon > might be the most useful solution here, perhaps? You mean, catching the error if we are starting the daemon? that's one possibility, assuming that the error message will then be visible when the first client connects. In non-daemon mode I think we should keep not catching errors.