From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:15:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sfiomf7t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0405lyn.fsf@thaodan.de> (message from Björn Bidar on Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:41:36 +0200)
> From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
> Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com,
> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:41:36 +0200
>
> > No one says MELPA equals bad, and Github is not the issue here. We
>
> Than I misunderstood RMS when he said:
> >>Please do not encourage people to load packages from MELPA.
"Not to encourage" is a far cry from "bad".
> > just avoid recommending people to use MELPA because doing so could
> > accidentally cause someone to install non-free packages, or packages
> > that proliferate or require non-free programs. It's a preference
> > thing, not a damnation.
>
> I wasn't aware of packages in MELPA that do such a thing, especially
> about non-free packages.
>
> >From my knowledge Melpa doesn't contain those packages nomore than Elpa
> already does (Microsoft Exchange support, excorporate).
>
> Can you name such packages?
No, I cannot. I don't track MELPA. You can find them in past
discussions, though.
> In the end people either can use Emacs on day to day work where they are
> forced to use such systems that interact with non-free services or not.
We don't (and cannot) force people to do (or avoid doing) anything,
neither can we hide the fact that MELPA exists. We just _encourage_
them to try to use only free software. It's a difference between
expressing an opinion and violently enforcing that opinion on others.
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2022-02-14 16:20 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Stefan Monnier
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2022-02-19 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-02-18 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-10-10 8:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-10 11:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 16:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 20:43 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: names Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 8:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 12:05 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-19 7:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 12:12 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-10-15 20:43 ` package-contact-maintainer Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 8:35 ` package-contact-maintainer Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 9:19 ` package-contact-maintainer Stefan Kangas
2022-10-16 11:02 ` package-contact-maintainer Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 20:43 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: manual style Richard Stallman
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2022-10-16 19:47 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-16 22:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 22:27 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-20 16:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-21 17:44 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-21 19:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-10-18 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 6:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 22:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Multiple index entries Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` "Package from Source" Richard Stallman
2022-10-24 16:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Installation from ELPA Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-24 19:30 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-24 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-28 21:57 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 12:05 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: manual style Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-19 7:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-10-17 5:25 ` Stefan Kangas
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2022-10-17 21:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-10-18 21:40 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-10-19 12:19 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-10-19 13:15 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-10-21 22:34 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-10-30 17:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-11-04 18:01 ` feature/package-vc has been merged Philip Kaludercic
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2022-11-05 16:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
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