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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, michael_heerdegen@web.de,
	mail@daniel-mendler.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	62009@debbugs.gnu.org, arstoffel@gmail.com
Subject: bug#62009: 29.0.60; Emacs crashes on setf symbol-name
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:59:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sfeczujj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16ecbe9ea85b22d008fd@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Fri, 10 Mar 2023 10:59:03 +0000)

> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 10:59:03 +0000
> From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
> cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>, 
>     michael_heerdegen@web.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 62009@debbugs.gnu.org, 
>     Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
> 
> > Creating a string is not a good idea since it will lead to an 
> > unacceptably large performance overhead.
> 
> Is "symbol-name" a function that is used in performance-critical code? 

Yes, it is.  Just grep for it.  We even call it from C quite a few
times.  And processing is just one aspect of that; memory and GC is
another, not less important.

> And did you actually measure that performance overhead before concluding 
> that it it "unacceptably large"?

Anything greater than zero is unacceptably large from where I stand,
when the other side of the balance is the use case against which this
protects.

> > Raising an exception upon modification would be the best approach.
> 
> That would also come with a performance overhead, as there is currently no 
> way to distinguist strings that are used for symbol names from other 
> strings.  Not to mention the added complexity in the code.

Which is why we should do neither.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06 19:26 bug#62009: 29.0.60; Emacs crashes on setf symbol-name Daniel Mendler
2023-03-07  4:40 ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-07 15:45 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-03-07 17:08   ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-07 17:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-09 21:11       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-10  7:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10  8:45           ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10  8:47             ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10 11:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:00                 ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:45                     ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 13:08                         ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 15:02                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 15:16                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-11 15:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-18 22:46                         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-19  6:03                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-19 21:20                             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 11:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10  9:40           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 10:31             ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 10:59               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 11:09                 ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 11:23                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-10 12:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:30                   ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-10 11:36                     ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 12:13                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 12:24                         ` Daniel Mendler
2023-03-10 22:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-10 11:57                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-10 12:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 13:19                       ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-11  7:07                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13  8:07                       ` Robert Pluim
2023-03-13  8:28                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13 11:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-13 11:50                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-13 11:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-03-10 11:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 11:59               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-11  7:07               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-11  7:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-10 18:56           ` Philip Kaludercic

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