From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Clojure mode Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 22:13:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83sf84i9ix.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87a5uw9ivs.fsf@posteo.net> <87ttt42gna.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87wmy080kn.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8djcydl.fsf@gnu.org> <87350ndquw.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83350ncbns.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyzrjbd8.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83zg2vav46.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7j99304.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87zg2hsyrd.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87h6ontwfv.fsf@posteo.net> <4874df51-9652-f9fd-0576-9dd6a4cba31a@gutov.dev> <3d5ef276-ce6b-9ff0-0c60-1da6b887b365@gutov.dev> <1070e416-2a13-49e0-90d4-fbc526cd461c@app.fastmail.com> <83ttskia84.fsf@gnu.org> <97c96b72-ebba-4853-98d2-86e3ba8bbc05@app.fastmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4005"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, rms@gnu.org, danny@dfreeman.email, emacs-devel@gnu.org, manuel.uberti@inventati.org To: "Bozhidar Batsov" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 27 21:14:16 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qaLDC-0000r7-OB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:14:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaLCl-0002eH-6I; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 15:13:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaLCj-0002e1-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 15:13:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qaLCi-00058B-UE; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 15:13:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=9P+SP21KpdVuPY0Ckj4HrMcW8X2dmvczg8DGxGUdYlI=; b=OqgjqqL12ty1 Ba38MgkAe9PCEkhKzKS0lv74cOU9Cfzqz+VI1k/RYYM/GCod1PiF3TlqY0TIW2a/tWeO4Y32RUlXJ 7ZClChojgoGfbf4+pk5IZtYC7SHi5ft8JUBWaC73x5tXYWb0eJ8cFskVGzzQ7WAA4JTsuFqy+MSLf rU41cqi8iHt14GfJjvlFWw/SvZz9mjvy8YyL/kVYbaF8KVsmOwb5hcHQqxCao7Az/bDS4pNjhBVEo BJdlLL3lfQUKDilBnX3GQD5iw0yBH/0UfItZ2XvQO+Szx6MyLbys0ONcO4aX+J93V+/30t49uk1Km J8XVXVpVy4q0TjFSi9jGkA==; In-Reply-To: <97c96b72-ebba-4853-98d2-86e3ba8bbc05@app.fastmail.com> (bozhidar@batsov.dev) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309373 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 22:08:57 +0300 > From: "Bozhidar Batsov" > Cc: "Dmitry Gutov" , "Richard Stallman" , > "Danny Freeman" , "Emacs Devel" , > "Manuel Uberti" > > Support for it is just one package-install command away, so I'd say Emacs supports it almost out of > the box. Not to mention that for a language like Clojure you also need some REPL-interaction > package to be able to evaluate code, so you won't get very far without an extra package like > inf-clojure or CIDER. Re-implementing those would be a huge waste of time IMO and fracture an > already tiny programming community. Which is why we prefer to include these existing packages, not to invent new ones. > To me it makes little sense to have support for everything built-in, as this doesn't scale very well. We agree about that. We are talking about clojure-mode, not about everything. Not every package offered for ELPAs triggers such discussions, far from that. Only very few do.