From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67382: 26.3; Emacs manual: clarify notions/names "visual line" and "screen line" Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:58:09 +0200 Message-ID: <83sf4wfrem.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12749"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 67382-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 23 15:59:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r6BAj-000391-6l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:59:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6BAQ-0007gD-Ud; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:58:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6BAQ-0007fx-71 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:58:58 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6BAP-0002eE-Ur for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:58:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6BAT-0007fj-QD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:59:01 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 67382 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 67382@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Original-Received: via spool by 67382-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D67382.170075150729440 (code D ref 67382); Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67382-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2023 14:58:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34573 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6B9v-0007el-5y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:58:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6B9t-0007eZ-QR for 67382-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:58:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6B9k-0002Un-0t; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:58:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=R6p4pg0VOLK8QQR0PPUiYAys9Ngoh6fngDIoorZ8f1A=; b=hcU41jPvmauS OxdTLa9VU2zgu7f0AYlHD1Lj4+nQ+vHnFAHB0IDvyUHaSEDrFNViF5/i53eZeT0zJa2wrFAj0tgRe cuzQAROiU3khtNfesyWnx94FVjJpnn49QgTwCTRumuFMbI250ud5f+6dxxiqqE2OxnkM6QXaxLYX+ GKaWZ5bnDsSFPB4qnhXdoJCfyNzmyFeAbmuyXuZYGGILOq/rFWcvxuxFyEX9i3gM8WItyRWdTWkBa 3T7YULQy+YvBXzil68ZaDEqgMXOo0SgX08BHhKsi8WQc1Xyym3VzddPSL6melt2gt7P+gN3qatvQg v2YX5GVXI4ZqDo4CXngNUg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 22 Nov 2023 16:56:55 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274807 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 16:56:55 +0000 > > Close if you don't think this is a bug. But in that case please point > to / explain where this is explained/defined in the manual. > > There are multiple functions/commands that have `visual' in their name, > and refer to "visual lines". And there is `visual-line-mode', which is > not necessarily involved/required for such functions. > > I haven't found a definition of "visual line" in the manual. But I do > see a definition of "screen line", in node `Continuation Lines'. Is > "visual line" synonymous with "screen line"? If so, should "visual line" > replace "screen line", since there are line-oriented functions with > `visual' in their name? > > Please take a look, and if relevant fix the manual to make this clear. > Functions whose doc strings or manual doc refers to "visual line" should > be able to be understood by referring to some definition/explanation of > "visual line" in the manual. The only index entry matching "visual > line" is for node `Visual Line Mode'. The Glossary refers only to > "screen lines", not "visual lines" - there's no match for "visual" in > the Glossary at all. Thanks, I added "visual line" to a few places in the manual (on the emacs-29 branch), and also added an index entry, so readers will now be able to find it quickly. I'm therefore closing this bug.