From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14192: 24.3.50; recursive edit while running ispell not working usefully Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 21:28:15 +0200 Message-ID: <83sf2xaxio.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87hajbkd3v.fsf@web.de> <87ppxzd75p.fsf@web.de> <87mstc5zpt.fsf@web.de> <83o7drj8r7.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0ikln9b.fsf@web.de> <83h6jgfmwi.fsf@gnu.org> <87fryxkrqh.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26758"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 14192@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 16 20:29:20 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rPp7f-0006lf-TR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 20:29:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPp7R-0003M3-L2; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:29:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPp7O-0003Lq-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPp7O-0008Vr-0t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rPp7O-0000iE-DB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:29:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 19:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14192 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 14192-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14192.17054333142699 (code B ref 14192); Tue, 16 Jan 2024 19:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14192) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2024 19:28:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49803 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rPp6v-0000hT-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:28:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54730) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rPp6t-0000hF-Jq for 14192@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:28:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rPp6n-0008Tw-BW; Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:28:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=GjGkKhmePnLxf+3j9tlnFBI8crYTqeOhwL0t/Lu92Lw=; b=Y+CnzzQTbPov iIWawBay2axYJbPZ7C64Un6vXLrAxmdpeQZBKTX4xmzCMxFr8M55d2C4IwWaKiWy1ZcV5XQDUVF4w ACktGU72bgFBVKrmoFpXhsF2XHmNxVZgg0LO+N1MeHY/Q5R9f8AcBfapeKoLm5K3tljnsENnx/xAk MoSL+emmYYda8ThPtE52P7PbYKVbIW9nZYXVLh4yU0D9Vimecf+NXnYeSYV5IxK2tPABm+l6FP2gc +0HzmMiKSk9NBFNcnidbSsPYOeEtpYjutfhO8mV7UDLlNtPyuNcC9ii30VvmMxRkQkfOPdkEJQyk5 x4w0z61alSHOWuS+GaXbPQ==; In-Reply-To: <87fryxkrqh.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Tue, 16 Jan 2024 20:23:02 +0100) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:278360 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, 14192@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 20:23:02 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I'm not opposed to patches to maybe make the C-r scenario less > > surprising. But in general, C-r is an obscure command in this case; > > it isn't an accident that it was not even documented in the user > > manual until recently. The alternatives described above are IMO > > better. > > I've thought a while about it, also about improvements. But I too came > to the conclusion that the general approach of C-r is not optimal and we > already have better alternatives, so I think telling the user to avoid > the command and keep it for backward compatibility is the final solution > for me. Thanks.