From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tooltip-mode shouldn't be enabled in the Linux console by default Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:47:05 +0300 Message-ID: <83r5zedjdi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <18932.16293.813561.158162@totara.tehura.co.nz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240858276 9743 80.91.229.12 (27 Apr 2009 18:51:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 27 20:51:08 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LyVux-0005MS-VQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:51:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47619 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LyVux-0002F7-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:51:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LyVr5-0000qP-TD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LyVr4-0000q4-W5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49421 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LyVr4-0000q1-P9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout4.012.net.il ([84.95.2.10]:19733 helo=mtaout3.012.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LyVr4-0000gi-6w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:47:02 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout3.012.net.il by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KIR00L00W61KU00@i_mtaout3.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:47:00 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.175.232]) by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KIR00B0TW6BO250@i_mtaout3.012.net.il>; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:47:00 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110494 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:00:18 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > For Emacs in CVS, tooltip-mode is enabled by default for text-only terminals. > > Actually I think it should be enabled by default regardless of anything, > simply because it should indicate "are tooltips popups going to be > shown" but rather "should tooltips popups be shown when possible". Don't we want to show the help echo in the minibuffer instead, when the mouse is available? > Looks like an error in the tooltip code where it should check > applicability before trying to create a tooltip frame. And if not applicable, what should it do, in your opinion?