From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The unwarranted scrolling assumption Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:18:53 +0300 Message-ID: <83r5k2g1qa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87631jvpzg.fsf@gmail.com> <4C18211C.3070106@harpegolden.net> <87vd9j5neu.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <83sk4misf2.fsf@gnu.org> <83iq5hiiin.fsf@gnu.org> <83fx0lihov.fsf@gnu.org> <838w6cixma.fsf@gnu.org> <83y6ech1oo.fsf@gnu.org> <83ocf8gx7e.fsf@gnu.org> <83fx0jgxk7.fsf@gnu.org> <83eig3gspa.fsf@gnu.org> <83bpb7gp2g.fsf@gnu.org> <837hlvglvh.fsf@gnu.org> <834ogzglaj.fsf@gnu.org> <8339wjgg8w.fsf@gnu.org> <83y6eagb7g.fsf@gnu.org> <83vd9eg9j1.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276982484 18548 80.91.229.12 (19 Jun 2010 21:21:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 19 23:21:21 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ5TW-0005rL-NO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:21:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54633 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OQ5TW-0004nd-5H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58048 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OQ5TQ-0004nO-1m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ5TO-0005Zx-RN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:21:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:62244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ5TO-0005Zt-Jh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:21:06 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L4A007005X8LR00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:20:56 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.178.198]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L4A004Z35YV8P80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:20:56 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126255 Archived-At: > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:10:28 +0200 > Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gn= u.org >=20 > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote= : > >> From: Lennart Borgman > >> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:58:39 +0200 > >> Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel= @gnu.org > >> > >> > The problem I tried to solve was the one you reported at the b= eginning > >> > of this thread: evaluate this: > >> > > >> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0(setq scroll-preserve-screen-position 'always > >> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0scroll-conservatively =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 most-positive-fixnum > >> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0scroll-step =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0) > >> > > >> > and then visit window.c and press and hold the arrow ke= y. =C2=A0You > >> > said that sometimes you see display being recentered, i.e. you= see the > >> > cursor near the middle of the window, instead of it being at t= he last > >> > screen line. > >> > >> > >> Then I am afraid the patch is plain wrong. > > > > Did you try it? >=20 > Why do you ask? Because only by trying and reporting the results you can prove that the changes I installed do not fix the problem. > It does not at all address the original problem. I think it does, except that you interpret the ``original problem'' incorrectly.